The Grizz is alive...lots of pics...... - Page 10 - GM Forum - Buick, Cadillac, Chev, Olds, GMC & Pontiac chat


1992-1999 Series I L27 (1992-1994 SE,SLE, SSE) & Series II L36 (1995-1999 SE, SSE, SLE) and common problems for the Series I and II L67 (all supercharged models 92-99) Including Olds 88's, Olds LSS's and Buick Lesabres Please use General Chat for non-mechanical issues, and Performance and Brainstorming for improvements.

Reply
 
 
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 03-22-2008, 12:32 AM   #91
Senior Member
True Car Nut
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Posts: 4,816
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
GonneVille is on a distinguished road
Default

Paul, if you have a heavy garden wagon or something like a good heavy wagon, use that to move the motor. Use the cherry picker to lift the motor out, then pull the car out from underneath it with the other car. Run the wagon under and lower it in. Trust me, there'* no way in hell you're gonna make it to the house with a loaded cherry picker on gravel, without a few extra guys to help...
GonneVille is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-22-2008, 12:37 AM   #92
Junior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Posts: 0
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
2000SilverBullet is on a distinguished road
Default

Great idea Brian. Do you think a wheelbarrow would work

Too bad my driveway wasn't flat.

I was going to use sheets of plywood laid down under the engine hoist wheels.



Oh, I almost forgot.....the starter! Haven't got that out yet either.
2000SilverBullet is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-22-2008, 02:42 AM   #93
Senior Member
Posts like a Camaro
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Jenison, MI (Near Grand Rapids)
Posts: 1,070
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
theJMFC is on a distinguished road
Default

Wheelbarrow might be scary. A lot of weight to balance on one wheel (unless you have one of those nice two-wheeled ones). I know I don't have the body for that kind of work, anyway...
theJMFC is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-22-2008, 03:01 AM   #94
Senior Member
True Car Nut
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Bloomington, MN
Posts: 3,693
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
GoldenBullet is on a distinguished road
Default

yeah, unless you have a two wheeler dont even try it, carrying a barrow loaded with just rocks is scary, let alone a motor.
GoldenBullet is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-22-2008, 03:14 AM   #95
Junior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Posts: 0
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
2000SilverBullet is on a distinguished road
Default

Well, it was a good idea, but we don't think we could tow it backwards without damaging the rear bumper, so we're gonna stick to the original plan of wheeling the hoist backwards downwards slope on plywood......getting it back in will prove more physically challenging.

I'm pretty sure that the shipping transport company here in town have a cherry picker flat deck they can ship the engine without us moving it more than 4 feet.

What happens if I break the rear knock sensor plug off.

I hope that little 1 square inch piece that broke off the ring gear plastic shield won't matter.
....and I broke the handle off the oil dipstick. It'* garbage now.
Just about time for a junk yard scavenger hunt.
2000SilverBullet is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-22-2008, 11:24 AM   #96
Senior Member
Posts like a Northstar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Ladysmith B.C. Canada
Posts: 620
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
JMH1950 is on a distinguished road
Default

Paul, if you need an extra hand in the next few days, let me know. Even if I drive over, it'* not that far. I'm busy today, but I don't go back to work until Wednesday.
JMH1950 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-22-2008, 11:48 AM   #97
Junior Member
Posts like a Ricer Type-R
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Posts: 10
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
willwren is on a distinguished road
Default

Paul, double check the source of the knock sensor and PS (T2V) plug. If they're on the engine harness downstream of the connector behind the alternator, leave it connected for now. I don't recall which harness it comes from.

Just squeeze the flats and pull it off otherwise.
willwren is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-22-2008, 12:11 PM   #98
Junior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Posts: 0
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
2000SilverBullet is on a distinguished road
Default

That'* mighty nice of you to offer John.

When this engine will be ready to come out. A lot depends on my son and his Safeway work schedule.....he works every day from now till Thursday....needs to pay for this rebuild.

With Easter and all we can only pick away at it this weekend.

The PS pump, AC compressor and starter are next to come off and never having done it before it will take some tinkering......don't even know where the bolts are.......and that bastard knock sensor clip.
I have to bottle 60 liters of wine today and Victor just went to work, so the real work won't begin until he gets home @ 4:30.

Then the tricky rear support and hidden trani bolts should prove to be a challenge.

So I don't think we will be ready until at least Tuesday to pull it out........if not then, then the following week is the last week before I am gone for 2 months.

I am going to Vancouver next Friday (work related) and Saturday (Auto Show) and then home on Sunday till I leave the following Saturday.

Let'* monitor the progress this weekend and I'll let you know on Monday if Tuesday is good. It sure would help to have another pair of strong hands around when we extract this Grizzly'* eye tooth.
2000SilverBullet is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-22-2008, 12:19 PM   #99
Junior Member
Posts like a Ricer Type-R
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Posts: 10
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
willwren is on a distinguished road
Default

Paul, for the backwards bolt, just remove the rear exhaust mani. It'll come out if you push the trans dipstick out of the way (with the exhaust studs removed, which you'd have to do to pull the motor anyway). 15 minutes more work, and then you'll SEE the backwards bolt in the 'armpit' under the mani, where the trans wraps around the block.

I can shoot a pic on the engine stand here showing you which one it is (it can't be seen from the passenger side, I found it by 'feel' with a long stack of extensions). When I put it back, the rear manifold wasn't on, and I tightened it from above in this manner, but I had pre-glued it in place with RTV to be able to get to it from the passenger side if necessary.

I can show the tailshaft bracket as well if you like. My motor is still on the stand.
willwren is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-22-2008, 12:22 PM   #100
Junior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Posts: 0
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
2000SilverBullet is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Paul, double check the source of the knock sensor and PS (T2V) plug. If they're on the engine harness downstream of the connector behind the alternator, leave it connected for now. I don't recall which harness it comes from.

Just squeeze the flats and pull it off otherwise
You must have a better squeezer than me cause it'* hard when you have to reach up blind thru narrow opening and have your hand bent at a strange angle and then try to squeeze inside a recess with only the tips ot two fingers.

They come off the harness after the connector. So this connector you speak about. Is that the one with two screws that bolts onto the firewall? .....because there is no quick connect except the one for the crank and cam sensors harness.


Edit - Thanks Bill, wait till I get that far and pics would be great. Nice tip on the backwarks bolt. I remember see that one when I did my headers. It'* the same on the Series 2 engine.

So I suppose a Series 2 is out of the question...Nes pas?

Oh, and does the front and crossover pipe have to come off to get the rear off
Then I suppose you have to reinstall the rear lifting bracket? Did you use spacer washers to make up for the loss of the manifold flange?

Do the bracket come off completely or just the bracket to frame bolts......or just the bracket to engine bolts??
On a normal V8 which is all I have experience on, you can undo the motor mounts before supporting the engine on the hoist. Is that possible on this sideways engine?
2000SilverBullet is offline   Reply With Quote
 
 
Reply

Related Topics
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
The GRIZZ !!! 2000SilverBullet Your Ride: GM Pictures & Videos 57 03-26-2008 06:16 PM
Grizz Guts......and so it begins. 2000SilverBullet 1992-1999 5 03-21-2008 09:49 AM
Lots of Bonnes in Lots... (96-99) gm4life Lounge 10 12-24-2005 06:32 PM
Website pics (very basic, lots of pics 56k warning) 00indyssei Your Ride: GM Pictures & Videos 21 06-08-2005 06:39 PM
lots lots of electricl problems Masterbm Everything Electrical & Electronic 3 04-16-2005 10:53 PM


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 05:27 AM.


We are a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for us to earn fees by linking to Amazon.com and affiliated sites.