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Old 09-13-2005, 02:53 PM   #101
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so, after she is running and settled in, are you going to try the trip to TO again?
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Old 09-13-2005, 03:46 PM   #102
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Having done numerous motors...

Isn't it a GREAT feeling when you put that fuse back in and you hear Vroooom.

Good work.
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Well that oil "leak" turned into a big mess. It was the oil filter adapter that was not sealing properly. So I spoke with Will on the phone and explained the situation. Basically the place where the adapter mounts to is the timing chain cover and it had a low spot ( from me cleaning the surface too well), So I took a file to it to smooth it out as much as possible.
It came out pretty good actually, but still had a bit of a variation. So as he suggested I went and got some good silicone http://www.permatex.com/auto/autouh....&item_no=51813 Seems to be good stuff.

Problem is that there is no curing time on it, so I let it sit there for about 3 hours and then decided to start it ( Will suggested a couple of hours).
Well I had enough time to start it ( not even one full crank to start it either) looked under it, see it was leaking like mad, turned it off. BUT there was enough oil that leaked onto the belt that it flung it all over the place and threw the belt off.

So I figured that silicone stuff is what the problem is, well as I start to remove it I seen that the side I put that silicone on was stuck good, but it was the other side that was not. I didn't put any silicone on that side since the gasket had an orange tracer of silicone on it already.

My only options were to try again with the other gasket I got but this time put it on both sides, and let it sit over night, OR take my timing chain cover off and put my old one on. Well I need to get that harmonic balancer off before I can take the timing chain cover off, so I spoke with a friend of mine that is a mechanic and he said to try putting that silicone on both side before going through the timing chain cover R&R.

So I cleaned it all up again and tried the silicone on both sides and letting it sit till tomorrow afternoon.

If not I will attempt to get the harmonic balancer off, if not then it will have to go to the garage to get fixed.

So close yet so damn far.
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The good news is that MY side held.
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Just take your time and remain patient like you are now.. you'll get there. Sooner than you probably think. It'll be worth it in the end.
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Only problem is that we need to have the 2 cars on the road right now. I hope this holds tomorrow, just in case I will be picking up another of the same gasket on the way home so that if I have to change the timing chain cover I have all the gaskets ready.
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Well that idea totally failed, I tried when I got home tonight. I thought I struck oil there was so much spraying out the top of the motor, LOL.

I then was going to use just one gasket the way it is supposed to be done and hope that the surface is flat. Well the oil pressure relief valve, got stuck inside so now if I try and start it, it doesn't leak but the oil pressure is 0, So that mean Off comes the timing chain cover.

I talked to Will for a few other suggestions to get the bolt for the harmonic balancer off, he tried to show me one way but I was unable to do it since I didn't have the clearance. I was going to to the " use a breaker bar and crank it over " trick but Will was afraid that I may damage the flywheel. So I figured I would remove it the same way I got the one off my blown engine. SO I removed the starter, and jammed the flywheel against the block, along with my breaker bar, a 4 foot piece of pipe and me standing ON the car ( no hood at this point). Now that would have been a Kodak moment.

Got the bolt off, and wanted to at least take the balancer off, but guess what is in the way, the damn oil filter adapter.

So tomorrow I will start the process of removing and installing my old timing chain cover and hope it all goes well.



One thing I found odd, when I started the car without the belt on it and no oil pressure ( just after I installed the gasket again) it had a noticeable miss to it.

I will keep my eye on it after I get everything re-installed and cleaned up.
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Given enough leverage, even the strongest bolt will either come loose or shear off cleanly.

Mike, a miss wouldn't be out of the question with all the engine work and poking around. If it'* a simple miss, you'll nail it.
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Good job Mike..

The nice thing about that bolt is it was engineered to take more force than we should be able to apply, even with extra leverage.

And I agree with Bill...the using the starter method may hurt the starter..as well things can fly ... it'* plain dangerous.
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