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Old 04-13-2007, 02:22 PM   #21
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there was a guy local to me that made a GNX clone out of a '70-72 Skylark. It was pretty sweet. It was black with the GN wheels. I'll have to see if I have a pic of it.
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Originally Posted by HurstGN
...modify all you want, it'* your car. But if you try to sell it as something it isn't, you get your blank'* chopped off!! ....Dan McCann
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That'* the truth! It'* your car... do what you want. But, don't you freaking pull a fraud and try to sell it as something it'* not.
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Originally Posted by Mista_SC
That'* why VIN'* were created don't buy a car without checking the VIN, You'll need to have the VIN number to get insurance anyway, only changing the VIN would concern me...............
Up to a point. The older cars don't have VIN numbers. You have to be a real pro at memorizing serial numbers and casting numbers to properly identify an older car and what options it should have. (cross checking engine serial numbers, body tags, block casting numbers etc. etc. against published lists from serious car clubs and collectors.) To the un-initiated it can be a real challenge.

Very few of the fake folks will alter the vin on a car (it is, in fact, a felony to do so in most aren't supposed to remove or alter the plates for any porpose, even if you restore a real car.) But few buyers know what the letters in a VIN mean and what to look for. That'* what the fakers are counting on, and get away with quite a bit.

It'* kinda like collecting old rifles. There'* enough fake M1-C'* in the world to make give the whole collecting community a headache and a black eye.

Last, keep in mind that a few folks have gotten into serious ***** by cloning cars. I don't know of any cases involving GM going after a faker, but Fiat (Ferrari) and Lamborghini both have gone after "reproduction" makers and won their cases on the basis of the fakes negatively effecting the value of their real cars. In these cases, the cars were legal by US standards regarding their VIN numbers...they were actually 70'* Corvettes and 80'* Pontiac Fieros made up to look like the exotics. The presence of the badges and other trade marked items on the bodies of the cars were the basis for the case. The judgements were in the millions against the clone makers.
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