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Old 04-12-2007, 12:44 AM   #11
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I hear where you are coming from. In my book it'* just like those little ricers that love to put that red R sticker on all there civics and such. Amatter a fact I've been going used car shopping with my best friend looking at 04 & 05 GTPs and one we saw yesterday was a GTP R I don't get it.


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Old 04-12-2007, 08:57 AM   #12
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If a car is modified to contain all those features (that would designate that model) then I wouldn't mind so much, but they rarely are.
I hear you there. I have to laugh when I see a car someone cloned into a 442 like this one: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/olds-...QQcmdZViewItem

They never made a 442 with that body style. '68-72 442 hardtops only came in this body style: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1968-...QQcmdZViewItem

I don't feel too bad about mine, I think it has all the correct options and parts for a 442, except the engine is a 455, when it should be a 400.
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Old 04-12-2007, 09:10 AM   #13
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Like Grimm said, folks will do anything they please to there car, after all.... it IS there property I never understood why other care what people do to modify there car (Unless they try to pass it of on someone who knows better/or who doesn't)
Yes, but it is also a fraud, and the owner will probably try to pass it off as a real one at a later date...most of them do. There'* a ton of fake '60s and '70s muscle cars running around...so many so that it'* damn hard to figure out what is real and what is fake. Plenty of fake late-model cars too (took a look at a 98 Z28 on a dealers lot one time that still had a 3800 under the hood..somebody just badged a base model and passed it off as a Z28.) There'* even a shop over in DeLand that specializes in faking cars. There'* just something wrong about it.

I've never done it, my base model F-Bodies do not wear Z28 or SS badges on them, regardless of what is under the hood.
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Old 04-12-2007, 11:00 AM   #14
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Yeah, there'* a thin line between visual modifications, and flat out BS about what type of car you have. Visual mods are all fine and good, even if I don't particularly like some of them. Rebadging a vehicle, however, does at least suggest fraud. It wouldn't be impossible for me to get the badges and cladding and rebadge my car as an SSEi, and pass it off as such to the uninformed. I guess it'* up to the individual to decide the morale standing of the move, though. I personally, as I have stated, would consider wrong.

And I prefer the styling of my SE anyways.... The SSEi'* eyes are too close together. They don't look honest to me...
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yeah, i hate that also. apparently, when dodge reintoduced the charger a few years ago, a lot of people put the "hemi" badge on the v6 model charger. i read in the paper that dodge sold like 5,000 hemi stickers just for that reason. It'* wrong to overglorify a car like that. I have an SE, and i'm not ashamed of it, i'm not gonna try to make it an SSEi or anything..
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Car show participants rely on looks and appearance.

"show" if you will. There are lots of cars on the road with owners who put allot of money in the "looks" of their car than the actual performance of the car. They are known as "All show, no go" cars which are fun to beat (in the 1/4 mile)

Also a judges score card has allot to do with the appearance of the car they are judging. If you have your hood up extra points, if its tricked out under the hood, even more points. If the inner part of your rims are clean more points.....you can see where this goes. Ive watched judges wipe their fingers inside of the rims and wheelwells etc.

If its a head turner then its got a good vote!! Sometimes you will find a Chevy Tahoe with an Escalade front and rear clip...emblems etc. and it looks like a cadilac, just costs a heck of allot less and is impressive when you can fool someone into thinking your driving a caddy. IMO I would think it would cost a bit of money to trick it out like that but more power to them if thats what they want.

I cant wait until the car show seasons picks up this year!! I am hoping to go to allot of them during the summer!!
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Old 04-12-2007, 01:34 PM   #17
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A few guys on the Olds board have done that. One has an *-10 and another a Blazer, and they both have Bravada front ends.
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I don't have a real problem with it. I am not into rebadging cars and would never own one but as long as they are labeled as clones then I am ok with it. I am putting a few Shelby touches on my '66 Mustang, no badges or emblems, but a few body parts. I am a fan of the Bravada/S10 front end swap, I would do it if I had one. Debadge the whole truck and swap front ends, looks cool in my opinion. I am also looking to put a few GXP parts on my Bonne, no emblems or badges though. I almost wish my gauge cluster didn't say GXP on it but it adds a little flare. Simply rebadging a car doesn't **** me off but it doesn't add anything to a car, takes away IMO.
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Yes, but it is also a fraud, and the owner will probably try to pass it off as a real one at a later date...most of them do.

That'* why VIN'* were created don't buy a car without checking the VIN, You'll need to have the VIN number to get insurance anyway, only changing the VIN would concern me...............
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I agree...modify all you want, it'* your car. But if you try to sell it as something it isn't, you get your blank'* chopped off!! At least the ebay link above starts out of the box in the description that it'* a clone. A clone of a model that didn't exist anywhere but in his head, but he did admit it.

Wanna see the most interesting clone (IMHO) made...look up the story of the GNX-ray. It'* a GNX clone made by a guy that worked on the original GNX'*. But his is called GNX-ray, and to make sure you know it'* a clone, it'* white, not black. Peachstate even made a diecast of it. It looks so good, I wished Buick actually made the thing.

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