Gotta vent... phony cars (even at car shows) - GM Forum - Buick, Cadillac, Chev, Olds, GMC & Pontiac chat


General GM Chat When starting new posts, please specify YEAR, MAKE, MODEL, ENGINE type, and whatever modifications you have made. Chat about all things GM (and related cars). Off-topic stuff should be in the Lounge, and all Model specific mechanical problems should be posted in the proper forum.

Reply
 
 
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 04-11-2007, 06:30 PM   #1
Senior Member
Posts like a Supercharger
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Missouri
Posts: 186
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
skregal is on a distinguished road
Default Gotta vent... phony cars (even at car shows)

Maybe I'm way off base. You guys can yell at me (I know you don't need permission) but I hate when I see this stuff. I was at a custom car show over Easter. There in a long row of street rods was a late model Bonneville. It is tricked out with lots of visual modifications. What caught my eye was the GXP emblem on the side. I looked in the interior and it had custom seats with GXP embroidered in the headrest area. Cool. Lots of dash modifications also including stereo and DVD, along with accent panels, etc. So I go look under the hood and there are lots of custom panels and chrome and stuff. I say to myself "that ain't no V8". Then I look closer and I say "that ain't even a supercharged 3800". The car was a regular bonne with no factory performance options at all. Why all the phony logos? Why spend so much money modifying an ordinary car and trying to make people think it'* extraordinary? I don't get it.
There'* nothing wrong with customizing an ordinary car, but you can't change a car from one model to another, period.
It reminds me of high school when guys would buy GTO stickers and put them on their mom'* LeMans'. I hated that too.
I don't know if the guy who owns this car belongs to BC, and I don't want to bad-mouth an otherwise cool car, but fake logos just bug me. If he would have modified a real GXP I would have taken photos to show you guys. (It was a pretty nice car after all).
skregal is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-11-2007, 06:34 PM   #2
Senior Member
True Car Nut
 
toastedoats's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Fitchburg Ma _ToastedRice_
Posts: 6,837
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
toastedoats is on a distinguished road
Default

toastedoats is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-11-2007, 06:35 PM   #3
Senior Member
Certified GM nut
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Yuma, AZ.
Posts: 1,936
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
GXP_Vince is on a distinguished road
Default

ohhh that would **** me off I would have said something to him.
GXP_Vince is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-11-2007, 08:23 PM   #4
Senior Member
Certified Car Nut
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Robbinsdale, MN
Posts: 15,408
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
MOS95B is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by toastedoats
No, not really. It wasn't the specific car he was actually talking about, but the trend in general. Basically, these people are exapndig the "Type R" trend. And it is stupid...

To go back to the car specifically mentioned, though, he'll probably get away with it. Outside of this club, how many people do you think would know the difference? And, if/when he tries to sell it, he'll probably rip off the buyer by claiming it really is a GXP. Without a VI check, who'd know?? I don't think my title specifies SE, just Bonneville.
MOS95B is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-11-2007, 08:42 PM   #5
Senior Member
True Car Nut
 
toastedoats's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Fitchburg Ma _ToastedRice_
Posts: 6,837
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
toastedoats is on a distinguished road
Default

my comment in general was that we need pics of the pimped out bonneville!!! We dont see much custom work on them around here
toastedoats is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-11-2007, 08:58 PM   #6
Senior Member
Posts like a Supercharger
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Missouri
Posts: 186
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
skregal is on a distinguished road
Default

If it wasn't a phony, I would have taken some pics. I actually had my camera. I spent so much time bad mouthing the car OUT LOUD to my brother, that I forgot to snap some photos. Then I felt kind of bad since the guy actually did do a lot of neat stuff and was proud of the car, I'm sure. I don't know if the owner was standing around because the area was crowded with people. I was a nice ride, but I can't overlook the re-badge model change. I should have gotten some pics because I think the front grill had been customized also.
skregal is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-11-2007, 09:35 PM   #7
Senior Member
Posts like a Camaro
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: West Michigan
Posts: 1,152
Thanks: 0
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
Grimm is on a distinguished road
Default

It'* his car, he can do what he wants with it. It happens all the time, people can't afford the high performance variant of a certain car, so they make it into one. My Cutlass is one of these evil "Clones" of a 442. Now I would rather have a real one, but it'* just more than I care to spend, and I don't really want to spend the money to put the original Cutlass items back on (I bought it this way), so it will stay like it is. But I don't pass it off as a 442 either.

I could give the same disgust at those here that change the appearance of their cars by clearing the headlights, adding tint, or changing the rims because they never came from the factory that way. But just like I said above, they are your cars so you are free to make them look however you please.

I don't see anything wrong with it, so long as they don't try to pass them off as the real deal to swindle someone. We just had that with our local car show. A guy did an entire restoration on a Chevelle, and he won best of show last summer thanks in part to my vote as a judge. Just about a month ago I found his car for sale on Ebay, listed and claimed as an SS, even though he told me two years ago that it was a clone.

But I can't get on you too much for not liking it. It really irks me when I see all kinds of cars with Chevy 350'* under the hood. That just gets me because there is no originality there.
Grimm is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-11-2007, 11:13 PM   #8
Senior Member
Posts like a Turbo
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: bloomington, IN
Posts: 424
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Mista_SC is on a distinguished road
Default

no one hopefully would be stupid enough to just "Buy" a car without the least examination? anyway It really doesn't bother me at all, it isn't my car or one I'm planning to buy, I wouldn't care if he badged it a Rolls Royce.

Like Grimm said, folks will do anything they please to there car, after all.... it IS there property I never understood why other care what people do to modify there car (Unless they try to pass it of on someone who knows better/or who doesn't)

bottom line it'* just personal customization for the personal user to share and dispaly, a car modified in anyway is a car that reflects you and your personality.
Mista_SC is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-11-2007, 11:39 PM   #9
Senior Member
Posts like a Turbo
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Kansas City, MO
Posts: 319
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
J. Pierpont Finch is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Grimm
It'* his car, he can do what he wants with it. It happens all the time, people can't afford the high performance variant of a certain car, so they make it into one. My Cutlass is one of these evil "Clones" of a 442. Now I would rather have a real one, but it'* just more than I care to spend, and I don't really want to spend the money to put the original Cutlass items back on (I bought it this way), so it will stay like it is. But I don't pass it off as a 442 either.
I had a '71 442 for a few years, and every time I look at your sig pics I get depressed :( because I can't believe I ever sold it. I never did find out it'* top speed. I just know there was lots of space left between the accelerator pedal and the floorboard when I'd lose my nerve.

Anyway back on topic, when I had it I came very close to making it a fake W-30, but not just adding the badges, I wanted to add all the W-30 components (It did have ram air) .... but this was before the internet and parts weren't as easy to come by, but mostly I never did it because it just 'felt' wrong, like I would be driving a lie.
J. Pierpont Finch is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-12-2007, 12:10 AM   #10
Senior Member
Posts like a Supercharger
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Missouri
Posts: 186
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
skregal is on a distinguished road
Default

I feel the badge insignia is EARNED by the car. It shows that a car has certain characteristics, although variations and options do exist. If a car is modified to contain all those features (that would designate that model) then I wouldn't mind so much, but they rarely are. Just don't put the badge on without the equipment underneath. It'* fake. I'm sorry but fake is fake, whether it'* jeans, watches, are cars. Ask Barrett-Jackson how they would feel about it.
skregal is offline   Reply With Quote
 
 
Reply

Related Topics
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
i need yall's help. dont even gotta leave the computer! eltatertoto Lounge 15 04-15-2013 05:23 PM
sry just gotta vent, feel free to join in fabz77gp Performance, Brainstorming & Tuning 31 03-05-2011 07:32 PM
Gotta vent - this junker is killing me skregal General GM Chat 17 11-06-2007 06:50 PM
I gotta vent.... Allmachtige Lounge 8 11-17-2002 07:42 PM


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 09:32 PM.


We are a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for us to earn fees by linking to Amazon.com and affiliated sites.