i will bring them to the local exhaust shop and have them do as much as they can

How much did you pay for those?

$349.99 for the headers
$110.00 for the ceramic coating
$20.00 for shipping
$480 shipped

How are those gaskets? I remember Todd commenting on the paper gaskets and just the whole package in general. Although my TOGs didn't even come with those gaskets; the stockers where still in great shape on my motor so they got reused. My TOGs also came with the EGR tube sticking out into the primary some (I think due to the manufacture rushing to finish them) so I had to grind that down before they went on.

I hope they work out well for you Andrew!


Ed

did you get any pics of the insides of the TOG'* Ed? I would like to see them if anyone has them. the paper gaskets are just that; paper. its actually about 1/16" cardboard, but i will be using the stock gaskets also

You'll need the stock gaskets considering the pitting on the flanges.

I'd strongly suggest machining or grinding (flat of course) the flanges to reduce the depth of the pits. You MIGHT be ok with OEM gaskets though.

My Silver Ceramic TOGs









Overall I was kinda unhappy with many of the little things about my headers. When I ordered them they were not even made and I gave 3800performace a good deal of ***t for not informing me for 2 weeks about the delay. Even after that I kept some heat on them and in turn I'm sure they were giving TOG some crap which is why some things came out sub par in my book. But nothing I wasn't able to grind down or smooth out in a matter of minutes.


But after 6 hours of installing them I'm happy (except for the finish slightly dulling) and not one leak to speak of.

Ed

To clarify this, the above post are TOG'*. They are higher quality than Pacesetter (at least what was posted by Andrew) but still have some MINOR issues.

those seem about par with the pacesetter quality i am used to.

I edited my previous post to prevent any confusion. And the shortcomings with my headers where no big deal in the end. There is always room for improvement no matter what product it is just some have more room to improve then others do.

Ed