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Old 01-23-2008, 05:12 PM   #141
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The crank kit I originally got for my motor ran me about 210 shipped from Atlanta Performance. That included all the bearings I needed. Unfortunately, certain events led to it not getting installed and deemed as scrap.
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how much would a crank kit be for a ser 1 . i recently was callin around for a sbc and those were only about 120 and came with main and rod bearings. 3800 cant be that much more. and add the cost of piston rings and cam bearings, and you have a new short block that would last 200k easy.
I think a 3800 Crank kit would run about $250 Locally with bearings.. But with a Spun bearing you will most likely have to have the rod resized or replace it with a good one( which could possibly come from the old motor ) like Brad had said.. Piston rings for this motor should be in the $140-$150 are iirc.. These Motors are a bit expensive as compared to a Chevy 305 or 350..

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I think a 3800 Crank kit would run about $250 Locally with bearings.. But with a Spun bearing you will most likely have to have the rod resized or replace it with a good one( which could possibly come from the old motor ) like Brad had said.. Piston rings for this motor should be in the $140-$150 are iirc.. These Motors are a bit expensive as compared to a Chevy 305 or 350..

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That seems to be about the going rate for parts around here. Even with my discounts a crank kit will run a little over $200.

From the second vid it definitely sounds more like rod knock than in the first one...I was hoping that maybe it was just a rocker arm that had backed off a little or something simple but that doesn't seem to be the case anymore. After all the work that went into it this definitely sucks. :(

Now I know for sure that when it comes time to put another motor in mine I will be taking the time to replace the bearings and measure everything to make sure it is within spec.
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Old 01-23-2008, 09:09 PM   #144
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Well I had a chat with the 'male parental unit', he said we can take the crank to a machine shop and have it turned for about $70, and have the cam bearings done for about $50. Thats the other thing we wanted to mention, not that anything can be done now or that we knew about it before, but you were right that the timing chain wouldn't go bad with the tensioner being there, but the tensioner would be pulling a little harder on one side of the cam which would in turn begin to wobble and then the cam bearings go bad, and then it goes downhill from there leading to other problems.

We decided it would be best to have it towed home. I think we will be coming down with a trailer and haulin' Gwen home. We're ready to come down Friday if that works for you.

Its not at all that we don't trust you with doing this (again), and not really even that we'll have to wait longer, because even bringing her home we might not have her on the road till March/April. But just to have her back home would make me feel better. And get her out of your hands, you have your own projects I know, and work to deal with. Thank you so much for everything thus far, you've done so much for Guinevere and I.

Brad, I can't say that many other people would have even offered to do what you did. SEBF 2K7 was well worth it if only to have just met you and the rest of the guys. (And get my first taste of Boost, some reallly serious Screamin' Boost at that, thats besides the point but I also thank you for that) Theres no way I can think of to thank you enough for everything you did good sir.

I also thank you Don for any work and knowledge you had Input on. Thank you Marik for giving up the motor for this operation, a dud it may have been (not for long), but Thank you!

And Once again, everyone else who attended SEBF 2K7 and had anything to do with the work done to Guinevere, as useless as it may have been since she spun he bearings the next morning, I learned from it. I was slightly scared to dig into that motor (and after seeing it open I had good reason, lol, black as night), because i never had before, I had worked with dad on his Ford engines before but this was different, slightly more complex. Anyway Thanks so much everyone!

Thank you to all of the Bonneville Club Forums for the support, memories and knowledge I have gained and have yet to gain!
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Friday works for me. She will still make it on a trailer (still has power to spare), though I hate that she has to do that.

Words can't express how bummed I feel about this, though I agree that a crank job will be the best route to go. The heads and valves are clean, the block itself is in excellent shape and no machining should be required in that regard.

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What type of engine are you looking for Brad/Don ? (sorry, but I sortta lost track)

Will a series II L67 short or long block be of any use? I do still have a spare sitting around here...reverse top-end swap (NA heads and manifolds on a blower block?)

If there is room in the truck or on the trailer, you can pick it up on the way past here.
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As much I would like too, we're gonna pass on the S2. Thats a good bit more time and money to go into that one. We're gonna stick with what we have and go from there. Thanks fr the offer though!
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As much I would like too, we're gonna pass on the S2. Thats a good bit more time and money to go into that one. We're gonna stick with what we have and go from there. Thanks fr the offer though!
No Sweat, I figured I'd offer it up again, since you'll be trailering the car right past my house if you come I-95...it is just sitting around here taking up space (its the back up motor for my LN3 to L67 swap...I've got enough confidence in my rebuilt 3800 L67, that I probably will not need the spare long block. Of course, now that I've said that, I'll probably blow a rod through the oil pan on startup )
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Don't say that. Remember, you ARE part of the curse. Don't jinx yourself (no pun intended).

The father and son duo are here, and the car is all loaded up, along with the original motor. Pics will follow in due time. We are all gonna grab some red meat.
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that really is SO sad. what the heck is going on recently? the S1s are supposed to be nearly BULLETPROOF and the damn things are KICKIN THE BUCKET.

White curse?

Good to know the car is finally going home....hopefully they can get it to stay.

and it was looking SO perfect too.
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