Gwen - exploring options 3-16
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I'll decide this weekend which path i'm taking. I am heavily considering the S2 L67 more now. You did kinda scare me off of it for a bit. But then I remembered a similar swap happened just before SEBF to a White '93 SSE. And I found the topic...nothing super informative in there though, unless i looked something over while i skimmed it, I'll look more throughly when i have more time tomorrow night or friday. Except I know what it'll look like . He seems to have done it in about a month, and though i dont see myself having as much time to work on it as he did, I don't have two cars to strip and im not dealing with the suspension or stripping the entire interior . So that swayed me more over to it...I'm going to try to do some more searching on what i can find and then maybe start a separate thread in brainstorming about how to go about this more specifically since I am unfamiliar with some of the terms used and how/where things work and what i'd need to get.
I am really excited to think this could happen, the hard part is going to be persuading teh parents knowing that'll add a significant amount of time to the project. And taking dads garage space.
I am really excited to think this could happen, the hard part is going to be persuading teh parents knowing that'll add a significant amount of time to the project. And taking dads garage space.
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I'll be posting sometime in the near future something along the lines of a "how-to", in regards to making newer PCMs work with older vehicle electronics. It'* not hard, but you have to be very methodical in what you do.
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Well we may still rebuild this motor, or go the Reman route. The Series II swap plan just ended definitely...aleast as far as being my 3rd motor.
Dad was saying yes its cheaper but it doesn't seem like the practical option at the moment. My car isn't a race car, its a daily driver that I will need for at least 3 more years. And neither of us or anyone in the family being electrically inclined I might make a bad connection and then a few months down the road and a little moisture and i have a short, possibly starting a fire or causing running problems that i'd have to fish for. Sure that a bit of a sretched idea but it could happen. Dad said if Gwen was more of a Project car he would have said go for it.
Even at that We were still tossing the idea around. But today the F-150 seems to have lost 3rd or 4th gear. In revers it I think I can hear something sounding like a grinding noise, but its faint. So now we'll need something on the road ASAP.
Dad found that his new 302 for the Cougar was an Advance Auto reman, it was never used and has been sent to the machine shop because the line bore was way the heck off. And after hearing a couple stories from some of his friends, we're NOT going to pick up an Advance Reman. We looked at Jasper, it doesn't seem to mention weather its a short or long block or the whole engine but its a $250 core charge and $2600 for an L27, or $3500 for the L67....we're going with the L27 Block if we use them. The warranty from Jasper only lists short block or 'Completes', doesn't mention Long block. Short block is 6 months or 8k miles. 'Completes' is 3 years or 100k miles. Which seems to be pretty damn good.
The Trans I think we may go with Jasper for in either case, $400 core charge, $1967 for the 3.06 4T60-E. Also has a 3 yr. 100k Warranty.
Opinions? Or Know a reputable place to get either a reman or trans done at? (I know it kinda depends on the locality but...anyway)
I think our plan as of now is to go ahead and spend the money on the engine(*) I got. Being that we can pretty well bet it'll be done right, instead of getting a reman and finding out 10k down the road it craps out the same way...
*sigh* I wish this would end soon.
Dad was saying yes its cheaper but it doesn't seem like the practical option at the moment. My car isn't a race car, its a daily driver that I will need for at least 3 more years. And neither of us or anyone in the family being electrically inclined I might make a bad connection and then a few months down the road and a little moisture and i have a short, possibly starting a fire or causing running problems that i'd have to fish for. Sure that a bit of a sretched idea but it could happen. Dad said if Gwen was more of a Project car he would have said go for it.
Even at that We were still tossing the idea around. But today the F-150 seems to have lost 3rd or 4th gear. In revers it I think I can hear something sounding like a grinding noise, but its faint. So now we'll need something on the road ASAP.
Dad found that his new 302 for the Cougar was an Advance Auto reman, it was never used and has been sent to the machine shop because the line bore was way the heck off. And after hearing a couple stories from some of his friends, we're NOT going to pick up an Advance Reman. We looked at Jasper, it doesn't seem to mention weather its a short or long block or the whole engine but its a $250 core charge and $2600 for an L27, or $3500 for the L67....we're going with the L27 Block if we use them. The warranty from Jasper only lists short block or 'Completes', doesn't mention Long block. Short block is 6 months or 8k miles. 'Completes' is 3 years or 100k miles. Which seems to be pretty damn good.
The Trans I think we may go with Jasper for in either case, $400 core charge, $1967 for the 3.06 4T60-E. Also has a 3 yr. 100k Warranty.
Opinions? Or Know a reputable place to get either a reman or trans done at? (I know it kinda depends on the locality but...anyway)
I think our plan as of now is to go ahead and spend the money on the engine(*) I got. Being that we can pretty well bet it'll be done right, instead of getting a reman and finding out 10k down the road it craps out the same way...
*sigh* I wish this would end soon.
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I honestly would never touch the advance auto remans, they are on a tight budget to get the thing out the door for as cheap as possible, so naturally cheaper components will be used. not saying it woulden't give a long serviceable life, however I myself would rather have a used engine then that.
now Jasper, they have a name to stand behind and while their stuff is pricey it is very worth it.
In all honestly I see 200k+ L27s all the time so why not get a medium mile junkyard engine?
now Jasper, they have a name to stand behind and while their stuff is pricey it is very worth it.
In all honestly I see 200k+ L27s all the time so why not get a medium mile junkyard engine?
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Thats agree Brad...
My #2 engine was a Very Low Mileage junk yard unit... I got about 1200 Miles out of it and then #4 rod bearing went... That was a bad thing as I was almost 1000 miles from home... The 3rd engine was also used... But came from a Low mileage running 1996 Bonneville... Never had any upper intake or lower gaskets issues... It still runs great...
The bad thing with a JY engine is you never know quite what you will end up with
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My #2 engine was a Very Low Mileage junk yard unit... I got about 1200 Miles out of it and then #4 rod bearing went... That was a bad thing as I was almost 1000 miles from home... The 3rd engine was also used... But came from a Low mileage running 1996 Bonneville... Never had any upper intake or lower gaskets issues... It still runs great...
The bad thing with a JY engine is you never know quite what you will end up with
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Hey guys, no update in a while....cause nothing has really happened :?
I confirmed I stopped both leaks in the trunk/cabin but thats all thats happened. Oh and two cans of VHT and a Magnaflow Cat showed up , The VHT might happen this weekend, pending on the weather. Cat wont go on for a couple months probably.
Anyhow, we're rebuilding what I have, and likely grabbing a Jasper Trans but that doesn't need to happen till we get the engine back. We're looking at getting started on stuff now-ish. Engine can hopefully go to the machine shop this weekend or next, and they'll have it for a couple weeks. Jimmy'* (Machine Shop) is slow, it'* only the one guy (Jimmy) in there that does everything, so its slow but he does it right.
Browsing RockAuto Heres my cart as of now. Anything I should add/change for a different part. Valve cover and oil pan gaskets are good so I got the timing cover gasket set, and rear main seal instead of the conversion kit. And instead of the engine gasket kit i just grabbed the LIM and TB gaskets. Which is saving about $30 it looks like (The total was 200 something before I did that). And is it just me or does RockAuto not carry a new oil pump?
Oh and I'm gonna get a Bra too, hide my front end scars untill I find a bumper cover. Might add that to my cart as well, but thats $64 unnecessary at the moment...
I confirmed I stopped both leaks in the trunk/cabin but thats all thats happened. Oh and two cans of VHT and a Magnaflow Cat showed up , The VHT might happen this weekend, pending on the weather. Cat wont go on for a couple months probably.
Anyhow, we're rebuilding what I have, and likely grabbing a Jasper Trans but that doesn't need to happen till we get the engine back. We're looking at getting started on stuff now-ish. Engine can hopefully go to the machine shop this weekend or next, and they'll have it for a couple weeks. Jimmy'* (Machine Shop) is slow, it'* only the one guy (Jimmy) in there that does everything, so its slow but he does it right.
Browsing RockAuto Heres my cart as of now. Anything I should add/change for a different part. Valve cover and oil pan gaskets are good so I got the timing cover gasket set, and rear main seal instead of the conversion kit. And instead of the engine gasket kit i just grabbed the LIM and TB gaskets. Which is saving about $30 it looks like (The total was 200 something before I did that). And is it just me or does RockAuto not carry a new oil pump?
Oh and I'm gonna get a Bra too, hide my front end scars untill I find a bumper cover. Might add that to my cart as well, but thats $64 unnecessary at the moment...
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I don't remember reading about fuel pressure. Can you do a fuel pressure test? If you haven't changed the filter, that might be a good thing to add in as well.
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Originally Posted by radomirthegreat
I don't remember reading about fuel pressure. Can you do a fuel pressure test? If you haven't changed the filter, that might be a good thing to add in as well.
...there... ACDelco Fuel Filter added