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Old 07-28-2005, 11:37 PM   #81
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thats odd, i blew my starter solenoid in my truck as well. i've had more than a handful of people that it was the first time they ever saw that happen
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It'* retarded. It freaked me out at first. But the worst part is it killed my battery, and so far, nobody wants to give me a boost. So that really sucks. Maybe overnight it will fix itself [year right].

Tomorrow i'll pull the starter and see if cleaning it up a little will help it out.
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Actually if your battery is not bone dead, then it is "possible" that overnight it will kinda charge itself a bit and might give you just enough power to crank it. But I have found that if you have a really low batter, it is enough to crank but not enough to start it.

Maybe you can borrow a battery charger from someone and charge it up for a few hours.
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You may already know this...if you can borrow a charger. The best way to charge a battery is at a 2 amp charge overnight. It really gives it a good solid charge unlike a fast charge.
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no man.. it'* bone dry. .23 volts at the posts. Charger won't touch it [i've got my own]. Alec said i need to boost the car, start it, then let it run a while and it will eventually charge. It'* a good battery, maybe 14 months old, 730CCA
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OSG... you may want to change your sig before trying to start it again. Somehow saying that it now has a blown headgasket just sounds like it would cause some bad luck

Good luck with the start up, I hope this one goes well
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Hmm if your charger won't touch it, and it is that low, I would say you may need a new battery, no matter how old it is. Also trying to boost it "may" cause problems on the car boosting you. When it is that low, there is a chance that it reverses polarity and can blow the pcm on the car that is giving you the boost. I have also figured out that with a deader than a door nail battery, you have to leave the car doing the boosting hooked up and running for a few minutes before even trying to boost it.

I have my battery go out on my 2003 Malibu. I mean I parked it that night and all was good. Came to it the next morning to move the car ( good thing I didn't need it) and it was acting all screwy. Sure enough I tested it and it was fried, still showed 12 volts, but lost all the current. So that Battery was about a year old when it happened.

What you may want to look at is one of those small solar panels, I got one for about 30$ CAD, you leave it on your dash, and plug it into the cig lighter. It'* a real slow trickle charge but it does help. I use it when I am working on the bonne and the interior lights are on, I find it is cheap insurance. Besides as the car sits there during the day when not being driven, it get a trickle charge.
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Hmm if your charger won't touch it, and it is that low, I would say you may need a new battery, no matter how old it is. Also trying to boost it "may" cause problems on the car boosting you. When it is that low, there is a chance that it reverses polarity and can blow the pcm on the car that is giving you the boost. I have also figured out that with a deader than a door nail battery, you have to leave the car doing the boosting hooked up and running for a few minutes before even trying to boost it.
Are you sure about that? Even if the battery COULD reverse it'* polarity, which i've never seen, the booster car has fast acting fuses whish IMMEDIATELY blow when the polarity is reversed to protect the electronics. But from experience when batteries are that low you have to induce the charge first. Just trying to give them charge won't always do it, that'* why i told him to get it boosted and leave it hooked up for several minutes with both cars running, to help aid the alternators in both vehicles from getting over worked and blowing out the regulators.
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no man.. it'* bone dry. .23 volts at the posts. Charger won't touch it [i've got my own]. Alec said i need to boost the car, start it, then let it run a while and it will eventually charge. It'* a good battery, maybe 14 months old, 730CCA
A charge is a charge, whether it comes from a battery charger or an alternator. If it won't take it from one, chances are not so good that it will take it from the other source either.

That said, you might have just not had a great connection from the charger clips. How long was it on there? Those things take time when a battery is that dead, depending on the charger. And from what I've read, you probably didn't invest in a very good one...
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Hmm if your charger won't touch it, and it is that low, I would say you may need a new battery, no matter how old it is. Also trying to boost it "may" cause problems on the car boosting you. When it is that low, there is a chance that it reverses polarity and can blow the pcm on the car that is giving you the boost. I have also figured out that with a deader than a door nail battery, you have to leave the car doing the boosting hooked up and running for a few minutes before even trying to boost it.
Are you sure about that? Even if the battery COULD reverse it'* polarity, which i've never seen, the booster car has fast acting fuses whish IMMEDIATELY blow when the polarity is reversed to protect the electronics. But from experience when batteries are that low you have to induce the charge first. Just trying to give them charge won't always do it, that'* why i told him to get it boosted and leave it hooked up for several minutes with both cars running, to help aid the alternators in both vehicles from getting over worked and blowing out the regulators.

Yep, I have heard of it happening. There are some cars that they tell you NOT to use to boost or be boosted because of this. The other thing to remember is that if you are using a car to boost another one, the car that is doing the boosting, well that alt has to work even harder to charge that dead battery plus run the car. That is why they tell you that if your battery is dead, DO NOT BOOST IT AND JUST DRIVE AROUND, it is extremely hard on your alt. Knowing how great the alt is on the Bonne, I suggest using a charger to give it a full charge. I mean I have gone through a couple of alts in a year, there is no stereo system, just OEM radio in the car and I have a new battery in it.

I just don't want to see his alt blow now along with all the other things that have been happening, he doesn't need that. He has a charger, use it, if it doesn't work, then boosting probably won't work.
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