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Old 03-29-2008, 03:20 PM   #21
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I'm not talking about the dealer installing it. I actually mean how long the case learn take?

And if i order a new PCM from the, and send my old one back, do i have to wait to install the new PCM til i get to the dealer, or is it okay to drive with it not case learned?

EDIT: I realized that the way my question was worded is confusing. Basically it goes like this.

If I order a new PCM from intense (and plan on sending mine in to them), do i have to wait til i get to the dealer to put it in, or can i put it in at my house, and drive to the dealer?

Does the case learn have to be done before the car can be driven at all?
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You should be able to drive it to the dealer. Last year I bought a new motor stuck a cam in it and was able to start it and drive it to the dealer for a Case Learn.

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Case learn takes literally 30 seconds if the car is up to operating temp.

You can drive the car once it is installed but don't go over 1/2 throttle until you have the crankshaft relarn performed.
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I don't know if there is a differance between the '03 and my '05, but a CASE learn procedure was not necessary for my '05. I had to perform a Security re-learn, but that was done by myself, no dealer necessary. Between the PCM and the FWI, I've seen about a 2.5-3 MPG increase. I don't know if it'* the switch from winter blend gasoline, or other factors, but the increase has definitely happened. As previously stated, the FWI is your first step, takes about an hour. Once you do that, you'll see exactly where your PCM is, as it'* fitted into the bottom of the stock airbox housing. The Intense FWI comes with a PCM tray, so you'll only need to drill a few holes to secure the tray near it'* original location. Once again, the info previously given is on target as to what to expect from the PCM swap. The shift points are noticeably (but not obnoxiously) firmer. THrottle resonse is snappier. The car has an overall more agressive feel to it. And IF you stay out of the accelerator, you'll see an increase in actual fuel consumption for the better. If not, it will be noticeably worse. Let us know what happens.

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Okay, well im going to call the pontiac dealership around here and see if i can get it done. I'm probably going to wait to install the FWI until i get home for the summer.

A few more questions:
Do either of these parts void any factory warranty? will i have to put the stock parts back in if i bring it to the dealer to get work done?
Also, is there any problems with cold or wet weather with the FWI installed? I live in chicago, and it gets really snowy, and we get plenty of rain. will that pose any sort of problem, or is the intake pretty well protected in the fender?
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Okay, well im going to call the pontiac dealership around here and see if i can get it done. I'm probably going to wait to install the FWI until i get home for the summer.

A few more questions:
Do either of these parts void any factory warranty? will i have to put the stock parts back in if i bring it to the dealer to get work done?
Also, is there any problems with cold or wet weather with the FWI installed? I live in chicago, and it gets really snowy, and we get plenty of rain. will that pose any sort of problem, or is the intake pretty well protected in the fender?
As I said before, only saying it because I don't want you to forget. Tell them DO NOT flash it back to stock when they do the case learn. You just need a case learn.

The rain and snow should not be a problem. I'm more north then you and have no problems. I'm not a FWI but a CIA. But that shoudln't make much of a difference.
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If i go that route, I'll make sure they don't flash it.

I'm still waiting to see if todd can get it done within a week.

Here'* the only picture my dad sent to me. Looks pretty good to me though. more to come.
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