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Old 05-26-2003, 07:18 AM   #51
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im all for not doing a half *^% job on a performance rebuild, and since in the service reord the engines never been torn down i know i need to tear it down to the block, i don't think i ill mess with the block or the pistons or anything though, i figure start by puting a new headgasket on then port and polish heads lower intake and blower, i'd like to get a valve job maybe bigger injectors, i think im gonna go for a rebuild on them also since then they'll all me the same. i've also tried talking to comp cams with no luck. then replace all the other gaskets replace the coupler in the blower, downsize the the pulley to a 2.2. slap a jet stage two chip in with a low temp therm, im alliminating the a/c since i wont have a room since ill have to get a 2 or three core rad to fit where my stock one goes, and a tranny cooler. Also i've been tryin to find downsizer pulley'* for all the acessories. Plus i still havent found an answer to the throttle body question (does an aftermarket seriesII fit?). Plus even though i have the bonneville the last thing i forgot to check on it that im wondering about swapping is the brakeing system. I'm thing it has 10in disk brakes all around. Which would be a good moddification since part of the lightening to my car will removing the airbag. And 4 disks will work better than my 8 in disks in the front and drums in the back.
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that should be about a $1000 in modification. Yielding im hoping a 300+hp engine then im hopeing to turn the 800lbs stock difference inot a 1000lbs difference after eliminating alot of the interior, all im keeping the door interior most of the dash and every last inch of carpet is going being burned. But the suns coming up so its time for me to lay down. enough for the night. Plus that weight difference will take alot of stress of the tranny if im not mistaken.
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Heh you remind me of me a month ago . Where to start. First off you don't want to waste money on porting and/or polishing your supercharger. Read posts all over this forum about that. I was thinking about replacing my injectors too until I found out they're theoretically rated to handle 542hp. A more practical 460hp was placed on them according to their flow rates so I just sent mine off to Injector.com for a good cleaning and balancing. The fuel system in these cars is amazing and its doubtful anything you have planned will push them too far. Doesn't you SSEI have a trans cooler? Transfer that joker. Also your stock SSEI radiator has an oil cooler in it so you might reconsider replacing it, it should do a good job of keeping your engine cold. Hell I kept mine at 160deg by tapping the fans every so often if I sit still long enough. GMpartsdirect.com offers a rebuild gasket set that comes with about everything you need. You can get plenty of OEM parts pretty cheap through them. Your going pretty heavy on your HP figures with what you've listed. I have the Jet stage 2 chip also and got to drive with it for a few weeks before I pulled the engine. Its more of a smooth acceleration than a huge increase. I'm sure they would tell you something in the 7-13hp range. The smaller pulley really puts the HP lower in the range and spreads out your power over the bottom end of your rpm range. The end boost will be higher resulting in more HP but you still won't be in the 300+hp range. Looking at prices locally (unless you do it yourself) your looking at port jobs of $250-400 for the heads $150-200 for intake, $120 for rebuild gasket set, $100 for smaller pulley, and $200 for Stage 2 chip. Larger fuel injectors (for 300+ hp ) are in the 48lb/hr range and about $60-70 each for some good ones. Then add in the radiator your talking about and your well over your $1000 limit. Don't take offence but on your budget I'd go with a good rebuild and a handful of budget performance parts. Stage 2 chip, pulley, maybe a home made CAI and a couple other hp tricks you can learn about in here. Maybe you can pull some strings locally and get your porting done a lot cheaper but thats what I'm looking at in my area. On to the throttle body...There is two things I know about the TB. You can use a '94 TB on a '93 but this has had several problems, most caused by some @$$ named Floz. Your TB is really tuned exactly for your engine and replacing it with a TB from another year (so far) has caused a lot of problems. There is one guy I know of that uses a later year TB but he says you need to mix and match different gaskets and it won't do you any good anyway since your sc inlet is so small. Meaning you would have to go with a later year SC too. If your not in a hurry I'd set it to the side until I get more info on where we can get performance parts. I'm not sure about the brakes but on the lightening note something to consider. On an "average" setup 100lbs equals 0.1sec in the 1/4 mile. Is it worth it to have your car look like junk and be missing an Air bag? Which I'm sure will set off all kinds of alarms and codes. I guess it really depends on what you have planned for it and hell to each their own. Lemme know if you have any more q'*.
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with the front clip went the rad,tran cooler and everything else attached to the front wall. As for port and polishing i found a place run me like 300$ for the lower and the heads.
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I know a little when it comes to the series 1 and I have to tell you when I researched the engine and its options I found the wisdom thrasher had gained going slow and doing it right applied in many ways to the series 1 engine as well.

Injectors As Dr jay has said should be cleaned. Until you reach the 400hp plus zone new injectors are not needed.

The TB can be done. The gain from this being "bigger" is the increased flow and stacking of cooler/denser air. Same for the SC the only gain on a port and polish has been the stacking of air cooler and denser. The sc is limited to a certain CFM and that is basically it.

Heads. Yes they can be done and you can get reasonable gains. Around 12-18hp stock. Obviously as you add more the gain increases.

Cam. I can get custom cams and there will be some gain but I personally would stay with the stock cam.

Headers. I can also provide those and so can any ((((good/slightly awesome)))) muffler shop or speed shop. Donít be fooled into buying something that looks cool but is not tested for actual gains.

Intake. Any CAI (cold air intake) will provide great gains. Even a plastic pipe. Actually get a proper flexible pipe and strap it to the TB and run it to the fender well and you will see awesome gains VS a big shiny pipe with a open cone. That or get an intake that has some ram air qualities. I am building ram air kits but they are not on the front burner as of yet. Iím trying to make them cheap. These also provide denser and cooler air. Add water injection and you are set up.

NOS. I can provide customizing of your stock TB So that it is NOS ready (dry or wet). We also can get you a custom plate if you would prefer that type of instillation. Plate is 180.00 and the TB customized is 80.00.


I prefer the centrifugal sc because of its superior gains over the roots charger. Turbo can be done nicely as well but a personal preference has me preferring the centrifugal sc. I am willing to have a unit made for the series 1 ití* easy to do just no serious buyers yet.

When you are ready for serious performance let me know and I am always willing to help with costs on the first buyer.

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This site is still down but maybe it will come back sometime.

http://www.luminasupercharged.com/

Lots of people have put SC 3800'* in Fieros they were great but are usualy limited to auto trannies.
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Try out www.l67swap.com

They're pretty closely linked with both Bonneville Forums here. Deathrat and I are both members over there, and a couple of our members are swapped already. This site is limited to L67 swaps, but the L36 or L27 swaps are virtually identical.

Good bunch of guys.
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Well well the searching paid off. I found a company familiar with our engines and cam and offers a grind needing no modifications. Specs are:
INT: 196į @ .050 .459 Lift
EX: 207į @ .050 .480 Lift
112 LDA
Yaaaaaay
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Doc, how much $$?
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"Wealp...how much you got boy?" (add southern accent) $130 + *&h but remember its a regrind sooo....
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