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Old 06-04-2003, 02:06 AM   #91
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Ok i need to calculate how many cores i will need in my my grand am radiator to meet the cooling capacity of the 93 ssei rad. So if somebody could give me the hieght and width of the stock rad and how many cores there also it would be a big help. Also the hieght and width of the tranny cooler because even though my car has a 4t60e it has no tranny cooler because its not built to hand the 3800sc engine. so once the bonnys trannys in i will need to get a tranny cooler.
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If you woudn't mind I'd like to keep this to the rebuild. If you have technical questions like that feel free to PM me or post it in another forum.
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soory dude didnt mean to tromp on your turf.
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lol ! its nothing like that but this will end up getting filled with "off topic" stuff thats all
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have you thought about getting an intercooler for ur SC? I have seen one on INTENSE or ZZP or one of those websites, but I dont think anyone on here has one, I figured that would be a good way to increase HP.
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Definately want one but I'm saving that for later. I want to get the intercooler and CO2 cooler for the intake and intercooler. Won't be for a few more months but I'm excited to get it. For now I have to concentrate on this transmission. I want to get a heavy duty model but after spending 6+grand on it I wanna take a break and buy other things I've been neglecting. So for now just a good rebuild and hope it lasts :/
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i just wondered... I want and SCed bonnie so bad!
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Well I FINALLY got my fuel injectors back from Marren Fuel Injection. Well it really wasen't TOO bad but I mailed them off around the 17th. Ya know they don't look the same. Maybe its just me but I don't remember there being a yellow cap on the end and the hole looked bigger rather than 4 pin holes. I also crunched the numbers involved. They tested them at 43.5 psi and came back with an insanely low 77.9cc/min after they were cleaned. Convert that into what they would flow at the 47psi our fuel system runs at and you get 80cc/min or 7.7lbs/hr. Not fit for almost any application short of a geo metro. Looking at what is NEEDED to sustain 225hp (stock) comes to 27.06lbs/hr at a tested 43.5psi. Mine came far short of this. Maybe its something in the test? I dunno but I wrote to them asking for explanation. Maybe goofnuts sent me the wrong ****. But seriously 7.7lbs/hr can handle 74hp on a naturally aspirated engine. So there'* either something seriously wrong with my math or the numbers they gave me can't be used to find true flow. We'll see in a little bit here. Other than that progress as usual, wait for parts, wait for labor. The supercharger pulley I ordered still hasen't come in, ordered that May 23rd from www.pulleyboys.com. We'll see...


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So the mistake was on my end:

Take a look at the test pulse. Note 6 ms. That'* like going down the road @ 3000 rpm. What you are confused with is static flow. That'* the max or wide open.

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So the rebuild parts came in the other day and he was telling me of a few key parts. One is the new hypereutectic pistons with Teflon-coated skirts with a 0.020 oversize. Not really heard much about teflon coating the skirts, my honest thoughts are that the skirts see plenty of wear and tear and 70% will be torn off on first start. The rest probably won't make it 1000 miles but who knows www.mustangandfords.com did a performance rebuild of a 302 and used those pistons, maybe they're not BAD. I really have nothing to go on thats just the picture I see in my head, maybe somewhere in the coating process they go down a few layers, dunno. Anyone know? So I also got fel-pro head bolts and am in the process of finding out which ARP rod bolts will work. These rod bolts are a little different in that they screw right into the rod cap. Usually you'll see a nut on the other end of it. Getting these in the right size is a bit of a challenge. Measuring them comes to about 1.6##" and the only ones ARP offers that may fit are 1.500 or 1.700". The obvious choice will be the 1.7'* since the ones in there are so close anyway but either way those are getting replaced, I don't care if I have to have some built for it. I got the junk scared out of me the other day when I heard about my friends rebuild. He did a simple rebuild of a little 6cyl in his truck. He reused the rod bolts which since my shop guy said he was doing I didn't think would be a bad idea. Nope, 119miles later the end cap blew off one of his pistons. His wife was driving Ms. Daisy when it happened too! Generally the rule of thumb is you can torque them 3 times before they're shot but pushing the design of this engine to (hopefully) twice its out-of-box specifications is going to need all the safety measures I can afford. The challenge now is getting a good rebuild on the trans and trying to stay semi-low on the cost. As I said before I got a deluxe rebuild kit from Trans-Go but the shop guy said he doesn't really like Trans-Go. So I told him I'd give the guy he knows that does transmissions the whole thing and he can use what he thinks is good and get what it doesn't have. He also told me he has access to higher performance parts for the trans and will put together a list and see where it leaves us. I'm trying for the $700 range but I won't be too scared going over $1200 for some decent performance in it. I know someone out there is thinking I'm crazy for going balls to the wall (some would say) with the engine and just "doing what I can" with the trans. Honestly I plan on replacing the whole damn thing with a fully built HD before it sees 50,000mi but that all depends. 50,000mi is just the cap I put on the transmission with the way I drive and the power it needs to handle. We'll see how that goes.
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