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Old 06-22-2007, 08:39 PM   #21
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Only in... most countries. That kind of thing happens everywhere.
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That'* with the Street Racing deaths numbers pumped way up, just in case it'* gone up since 2001 (I would assume so - people blame the spike in Street Racing deaths between 2000 and 2001 on the F&F release). Anyways, drunk drivers kill about 16,000 people a year - about 39% of all traffic deaths and they get how many strikes before anything serious happens to them? They never get their cars smashed at all.

I'm not condoning street racing, or even condemning the practice of smashing street racer'* cars, but I think it'* plainly obvious that our punishments are inconsistent with the effect the crime has on society. This is just my opinion, but I think we would save more lives and be more effective if the punishments were exactly reversed. Get caught drunk driving, we smash your car - first offense. Get caught racing, go to court, pay a big fine, a street racer plate would be seen as a badge of honor, but what if you forced them to have a street racer plate, and that meant they had to have steelies and a winter tire...you get the idea.
You may recall that I support the same measures for impaired drivers. Please don't confuse your stats. 16,000:500 deaths/year doesn't mean street racing isn't dangerous (or is safer). It simply means it results in fewer deaths. If you want to convince me that it is safer, show me the numbers. How many people drive impaired every year? Show me a comparison of this number to how many people take part in street racing. Calculate your number of deaths/1000 and prove me wrong! I don't think you can. There is much more to this than quoting numbers of total deaths.
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interesting solution..
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That'* with the Street Racing deaths numbers pumped way up, just in case it'* gone up since 2001 (I would assume so - people blame the spike in Street Racing deaths between 2000 and 2001 on the F&F release). Anyways, drunk drivers kill about 16,000 people a year - about 39% of all traffic deaths and they get how many strikes before anything serious happens to them? They never get their cars smashed at all.

I'm not condoning street racing, or even condemning the practice of smashing street racer'* cars, but I think it'* plainly obvious that our punishments are inconsistent with the effect the crime has on society. This is just my opinion, but I think we would save more lives and be more effective if the punishments were exactly reversed. Get caught drunk driving, we smash your car - first offense. Get caught racing, go to court, pay a big fine, a street racer plate would be seen as a badge of honor, but what if you forced them to have a street racer plate, and that meant they had to have steelies and a winter tire...you get the idea.
You may recall that I support the same measures for impaired drivers. Please don't confuse your stats. 16,000:500 deaths/year doesn't mean street racing isn't dangerous (or is safer). It simply means it results in fewer deaths. If you want to convince me that it is safer, show me the numbers. How many people drive impaired every year? Show me a comparison of this number to how many people take part in street racing. Calculate your number of deaths/1000 and prove me wrong! I don't think you can. There is much more to this than quoting numbers of total deaths.
I personally wouldn't be suprised if the number of street racers easily outnumbers the number of impared drivers. Think about it this way, I personally go out to them on occasion to see the cars and b.*. with people about cars. On any given Friday, Saturday and Sunday night, there will be 100+ people in one spot, and this is a week by week basis. The twin cities is miniscule compared to what happens in Cali., Florida, New York etc. There'* more like 2-300 at one spot at any given time, if not more. Add this up accross the nation, it would easily compare to the number of impared/drunk drivers that don't get caught, but the death toll is by far much less. You're more likely to see a fight at a street race than you are an accident from my personal experience.
I have yet to see an accident due to street racing in four years.
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ok and as i understand it now you dont even have to get caut racing you just have to have your car on a public road with "performance enhanceing modifications" to get a crush order sso you know what that means ...almost every care on this site could fall in to that catagory in 1 form or another asfar as i'm concerned this is a crock

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