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Old 01-10-2004, 01:51 AM   #41
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? You DISCONNECT ABS? care to humor me about why this is a good thing?

Its kinda weird I had to pay 1200 dollars for the onstar in my trucks...(yea I know the modules are there... but still)
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I gotta hear this....this should be good

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? You DISCONNECT ABS? care to humor me about why this is a good thing?

Its kinda weird I had to pay 1200 dollars for the onstar in my trucks...(yea I know the modules are there... but still)
Because it sucked. My truck was a 1995 Sonoma with the earlier style ABS, Generation 1 of you will. I had a problem with it kicking on at lower speeds over bumps. I paid the dealer almost $150 to diagnose the ABS system. They came back that the ABS was AOK and that I needed new shocks because the ones on there were bad and the wheel hopped over bumps. They also verified that the large ABS recall that was issued on the *-Trucks a year earlier was performed. Sounds fair enough. I then bought (4) new Monroe Reflex Shocks and installed them myself the very next day. The problem was still there. If I was stopping on dry pavement and there were a series of bumps the ABS would kick on and until I came a full stop. I then had my mechanic look at the system, after another $150 he verified that the system was working exactly as intended and there were no problems. Finally my brother who was a mechanic and certified NYS Automobile inspector for 5 years before becoming an Airline Pilot and having GM and Ford factory training on ABS systems looked my ABS over and did not find any problems. I was not satisfied with how the ABS system was performing and disconnected it. I felt that it was a saftey issue as it was increasing my stopping distanced on dry pavement when it was not needed.

I am not the only *-Truck owner that expereienced this problem. As a 'Super-Moderator' on *-Seriesforum.com for over 2 years I saw many other members battle the same problem that I described here. Many of them finall got fed up and disconnected their system too.

I learned to drive on a Non-ABS equiped car, and drove it for 6 years in NY winters NEVER getting into an accident, EVER. I was tought while learing to drive for the conditions and to 'test' the braking surface before stopping, and to double my following distance in inclemate weather, all things I still do today. My father has been driving since 1958 uses the same techniques and have never been in an accident, ever. I don't feel ABS helps be be a better driver in the winter. I will admit the ABS system in my SSEi is far superior than the system in my truck as it seems like it never kicks on. The ABS system in my truck did not save me from skid and loss of control situations like it was advertised to do. I repeatedly tested it in empty parking lots, getting up to 30 MPH and getting into a panic skid and activating the ABS, it contiunally went in a straight line.

Disconnecting the ABS system makes the brakes act like a normal brake system that was not ABS equipped. I consulted 2 GM Mechanics, my brother and my brother in law who is a mechanic who has a 2-year degree in Auto Technology from SUNY Alfred and now teaches Auto technology before disconnecting the system. None of them advised against it. ABS is a costly option to fix, ABS is a costly option that many are forced buy. ABS is not requrired to have on an automobile. I do not want it on mine.

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Makes sense to me...

I personally have never had a problem with ABS, and I learned to drive on cars made in the 60'* and 70'*, but it did freak me out the first time I had it kick in. Felt like the discs had been worn down to the vents! And this was on my at the time girlfriend'* TBird.
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Old 01-10-2004, 02:36 AM   #45
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I don't count on ABS to stop me, but i'm glad it'* there. Saved my *** in a Yukon a few times, but i learned to drive on that 88 nova, only two things with power was the stereo, and the steering. I wish i could drop the bonnie into 2 at stops like i used to in the nova, since it'* got way too much torque for winter, but summer...
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The fun stops when you start bashing GM trucks (silverado SS)
Here is a excerpt from a post I did a few days ago that I made on *-seriesforum.com reguarding the reliability of 99-current GM C/K trucks. The forums resident GM Mechanic and Moderator acknowledged them all as cronic problems on the trucks.

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I know 5+ people who have current model C/K trucks and have experienced cronic, reoccuring problems.

Brother-99 Sierra Z71:

*Drivers Power window stuck in down position had to replace regulator and actuation mechanism. $270 for parts at the dealer and a saturday in his driveway in a snow storm installing it.

* Rear disc calapers constantly freeze and become inoperative. Has to disassemble them and free the slides. Applying the p-brake is no help as it is a drum inside the rotor.

*Drivers speaker died, water damage. (Same cause for the window).

*Antenna lead comes loose under dash every 2 months causing dissasemby of dash. No matter what he does it still comes lose causing loss of signal.

*ABS kicked the bucket at 41K. Cause is bad Hydro unit. Cost is $200 at junk yard. $700 at dealer. It got disconnected.

*2 sets if front rotors in 25K.

*Howl from front differential when in 4WD.

*Front Differential is leaking fluid.

*Transfer case sometimes just says 'NO' to 4HI and goes to 2wd on its own. I have seen this myself.

* Drivers heated mirror works only some of the time.

*Transmission starting to slip at 51K

*Engine clatter on Cold start

Roomates 02 Silverado Z71

* Drivers Heated mirror stopped working.

*Passengers Heated Mirror cracked later that day.

*Been in on warranty for 'piston slap' on cold start. Told that it is NORMAL for a 5.3L.

* I borrowed truck for short while, tranny gets confused and slips. Takes forever to go into reverse. Has had this problem since day one, getting worse. Truck has 18K on it.

Friends 99 Silverado Z71

*Bad clunk from front suspension and shake in steering wheel. No one can find the problem. He is getting ready to trade.

*Passengers power window takes FOREVER to go up.

Co-Workers 01 Silverado.

*Heated Mirrors Cracked.

*Drivers Speaker stopped working, water damage.

*Numerous power window problems

*Front differential leaking.

Other co-workers 99 Silverado

*Front differential Leaks & howls. (only think in his defense is he plows with the truck)

*tranny about to die, Truck has 56K.

Uncles 99 Sierra Z71

*ABS died at 38K. GM told him to fock himself, truck was 2.5 years old.

*Countless other Nickel & dime things

Brothers Inlaws 03 Silverado Z71

*Engine Clatter on startup

*Interior Rattles

* Shakes at speed

*Wishes he kept his 98 Silverado.


I have just not seen much on these trucks that makes me ever want to own one. As you can see there are some cronic problems that GM has not even tried to fix. My brother can not wait to rid himself of his truck. He babys the hell out of it, and it is ALWAYS breaking on him. All of these trucks are very well maintined and yet they still have problems.

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Old 01-10-2004, 02:45 AM   #47
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Sorry dont care... All my trucks are running tickiety boo... I didnt even care when there was a defect with my duramax... Gm knows there defects and will do the work for free.

--decided to read problems...

Howl= caused by auto 4wd... very normal howl if used auto 4wd is used...
piston slap= it causes no harm... other then its loud and annoying for 3 whole minutes during warm up.
"brother in laws 03" =brand new.. It needs to go to GM to get verified as a lemon.
uncles 99= gotta contact gm direct. Most hillbilly dealerships dont grant warrnety work... UNLESS he was over warrenty.
co worker 99= dont care, off warrenty... Im presuming half ton... maybe the power/low end is why trannys dead.
co worker 01= no clue why the mirror cracked... cant really ly about a window problem.. its either screwed or it isnt, gm would probably honor it.
friends 99= not warrentied.
roommates= its an 02... most likly warrentied... BUMPER TO BUMPER means just that...
The cladding my buddys 02 avalanche is a little grayer then it should be. GM replaced it all, no problems... Maybe your not talking to the right people??
brothers= dunno what to say. Never thought it to be smart to buy the first year of somthing, or if I would, Id probably trade it in before it went off warrenty.
A co-workers 02 blazer at 30,000kms blew the block heater out last week, GM put in a new engine because the first one seized. I dunno, Maybe there good to us in canada...
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Well the C5'* are being outdone this summer anyways by the C6. The LS1 and LS6 can do very nice in a new F body once the vette'* been upgraded, which will make ford bring back some iteration of the 5.0 most likely...
Heheh...Matching up a 302 to GM'* 350...that'* classic. And Ford outperforms it, too. Maybe they'll bring back their Cleveland block 351!! Hey, a guy can dream, can't he??
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Ok.....lets slap a 45k price tag on a truck, with the SS badge and run 0-60 in mid 6'*

Look at this........

2003 Chevrolet Silverado SS 6.6s 0-60 Price as tested $40,010
2003 Dodge Ram 1500 SLT Hemi 6.8 0-60 0.2s slower, not even the SRT10 $27,820




OWNED. Simple as this. No matter what excuses ANY of you make, about the Chevy having leather, more features or whatever, when GM'* fastest optioned truck with AWD almost LOOSES to a mid line Hemi Ram, with RWD, that is EXTREMELY SAD. The Silverado SS is a DISGRACE. Id take a hemi over it ANYDAY. Payload towing capacity is higher on the DODGE, it runs lower RPM at 60 mph, and they gave it a 5 SPEED AUTOMATIC!!!!!!! GM is STILL running 4 speeds!!??!?!?!

No. None of you have any argument to protect the Silverado SS, it was a crappy design and a feeble attempt to catch up to the Lightning and the SRT-10.

6 Speed Automatic, NO LUXURY features, Supercharged 6.0L running mid 13'* is worthy of an SS badge, not a 15 flat, leather AWD truck.
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The Silverado isn't meant for tpwing, if you want a work truck, go get a 2500 HD, not an SS.

SS models only (limited availability).
345 horsepower @ 5200 rpm.
380 lb.-ft. of torque @ 4000 rpm.

If your gears are too tall, the short RPM range of the truck v8 makes top speed very low, and shifts very close to eachother.
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