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Old 04-15-2007, 12:54 AM   #61
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That makes no sense to me. A Hummer or huge turbo diesel is designed for WORK not groceries. People who have these vehicle should seriously consider something more fuel effiecent for none WORK things.
I feel the need to point something out here. While I definitely agree that Hummers are the silliest thing on the road, turbo-diesels are not a major mileage offender. My Dad'* crew-cab, long-bed, 4x4, F-350 with a 6.0TD makes 20+ miles per gallon. In fact, most of the TD pick-ups out there have fuel mileage numbers on par with a full-size car. I can excuse somone driving a TD as a daily driver. Frankly, as I said before, I think all pickups should be required to be powered by TDs. The price difference between diesel motors and gas motors eventually pays for itself in fuel costs, even if diesel fuel is more expensive. And besides which, the only reason diesels are more expensive is that they produce far fewer and tooling costs are therefore higher per unit.
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WS Time...

My lase road trip was August 06... On the way Up I never did less than 29 mpg, and did a best of 31... I wasn't going slow... I left here at 6:30 am and was on my Families door step at 8pm... It was still light out...lol... Had the car pretty loaded...( I never leave home without my tools ) Gotta take a milk crate full of stuff, and 2 different tool boxes... He He He...

On the way back, we had been shopping... I had to shift stuff around... Trunk was loaded and the back seat was loaded to the gills... I ran a 29mpg all the way back, with the AC on tooling on at about 80mph with the car seriously loaded.. All I can say is I love my Full sized car...

I have driven smaller cars.... I need the leg room... In a smaller car My knees would murder me..

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GM should be willing to pay millions for your car. A full size car that gets 29 mpg while going 80 mph. They'll sell millions of them. Seriously, I'll never understand how you get that kind of mileage.
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Ted, mine has been getting that kind of highway mileage since I've had it. As long as it'* kept in good tune. No BS. Long trips really are the forte of these cars, IMO.

I mean, at 80 mph, it really doesn't do much more than 2200-2500 rpm, if you believe those guages. Of course, I will admit that I tend to use 89 octane, which gives me slightly better mileage across the board.
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GM should be willing to pay millions for your car. A full size car that gets 29 mpg while going 80 mph. They'll sell millions of them. Seriously, I'll never understand how you get that kind of mileage.
I have never had any issues getting 30+ from 3800'*... Only exception is the 3.33 gear ratio.... Would be lucky to see 28mpg there..

I have done a Max of 33mpg..

On the 91... I did 31, But keep in mind I did 80-105( If anyone ever asks I will never admit I was driving fast ) for the first 100 miles.. The rest was Country 2 lane roads from 55-65 Mph..... I would have done better if I didn't have my foot in it..

Boosty has managed as much as 32-33, Bandit had done 33-34.... Even my cousin when she used to drive her 95 SLE down pulled 30-32 all day long...

I used to know a service advisor with a 90 SE Bonneville, with 2.97 gears and he always did 30-32 on the open road as well...

Even Brads 3500 Malibu will pull down 29 mpg with 3.29 gears, and thats with a little stop and go...

After I tune up the Bonnie again( before the trip ) I'll have to see what MPG'* I pull down as I am lightly modded now... But city Mileage has improved a bit

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I did a 60mi trip at an average of 80-90mph, and was getting about 30 mpg on 87 octane. I was shocked, but my GP gets good gas mileage. At speed limit, I push over 30mpg easily.
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Yeah, something must be wrong with mine, I averaged 18 winter and 22 summer. long trips, averaged 24, all highway. all tuned up, 2.84 granny, wtf?
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That'* about what I get, with mixed driving. I know she'll do better, though. When The Missus and I take our summer road trips the mileage shoots up.

But, just like most things, the CAFE standard has to be based on the worst case scenario, which in this case has to be mostly city driving.
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Then why not bring back the EV1

if you dont know google Who Killed The Electric Car.
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