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GM halts all Future RWD Models due to new Cafe Standards

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Old 04-14-2007, 11:54 PM
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Originally Posted by windshield_time
That makes no sense to me. A Hummer or huge turbo diesel is designed for WORK not groceries. People who have these vehicle should seriously consider something more fuel effiecent for none WORK things.
I feel the need to point something out here. While I definitely agree that Hummers are the silliest thing on the road, turbo-diesels are not a major mileage offender. My Dad'* crew-cab, long-bed, 4x4, F-350 with a 6.0TD makes 20+ miles per gallon. In fact, most of the TD pick-ups out there have fuel mileage numbers on par with a full-size car. I can excuse somone driving a TD as a daily driver. Frankly, as I said before, I think all pickups should be required to be powered by TDs. The price difference between diesel motors and gas motors eventually pays for itself in fuel costs, even if diesel fuel is more expensive. And besides which, the only reason diesels are more expensive is that they produce far fewer and tooling costs are therefore higher per unit.
Old 04-15-2007, 05:51 PM
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GM should be willing to pay millions for your car. A full size car that gets 29 mpg while going 80 mph. They'll sell millions of them. Seriously, I'll never understand how you get that kind of mileage.
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Ted, mine has been getting that kind of highway mileage since I've had it. As long as it'* kept in good tune. No BS. Long trips really are the forte of these cars, IMO.

I mean, at 80 mph, it really doesn't do much more than 2200-2500 rpm, if you believe those guages. Of course, I will admit that I tend to use 89 octane, which gives me slightly better mileage across the board.
Old 04-16-2007, 03:42 PM
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I did a 60mi trip at an average of 80-90mph, and was getting about 30 mpg on 87 octane. I was shocked, but my GP gets good gas mileage. At speed limit, I push over 30mpg easily.
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Yeah, something must be wrong with mine, I averaged 18 winter and 22 summer. long trips, averaged 24, all highway. all tuned up, 2.84 granny, wtf?
Old 04-16-2007, 04:14 PM
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That'* about what I get, with mixed driving. I know she'll do better, though. When The Missus and I take our summer road trips the mileage shoots up.

But, just like most things, the CAFE standard has to be based on the worst case scenario, which in this case has to be mostly city driving.
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Then why not bring back the EV1

if you dont know google Who Killed The Electric Car.
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