Hey, we don't have to lose all of that, Pick your favorite (hopefully light) car and convert it.

It doesn't have to be slow:
http://www.nedra.com/record_holders.html

And if you read the right books (and have the ability to learn) you can do it yourself:
http://austinev.org/

Or, You can buy one somebody else converted!
http://www.squidoo.com/cheap-electric-car/


It won't fix the issue tommorrow, But everyone you show the car will think that much better of it. Just like when you show your buddies your Bonneville and a year later they have one


On a different train, Why scream at GM and EPA for the car you want everyone to drive to be produced. If you really want that, Get it. They're available and not bank-breakers. GM got the market by winning over the public with it'* distance capabilities and running Detroit Electric and others out of business. Well, 250miles per charge is easily attainable now, and gas is expensive. Why keep buying GM cars if they're not what you want?

Unfortunately, the companies will have to adapt to the changes. It'* just how things are going to have to be.

All this talk about emissions and government regulations, and the whole time im thinking about this:

http://www.teslamotors.com

If they could go into mass production, their prices would be lower, and I would definitely be one of their customers. The only thing im worried about is that they may go the way of the DeLorean and be bought out and destroyed by GM.

i take that home with me too.

Both of your examples are proof of what I wrote. You say they were selling good. Maybe so, in a relative sense, but their sales were not good enough to justify their continued existence in the eyes of their respective OEMs.

Bronco'* sales had been sliding for years, just like the current Ranger has been for over ten years now. It too will die. The level of tooling required to keep a vehicle designed for much higher sales volume can no longer be justified. So the vehicle is tanked.

Caprice sales volume never reached what GM tooled and marketed for...bye, bye.

I know. The automotive supplier I used to work for priced their product on the expected GM sales volume and tooled accordingly. They also lost their shirts on the Caprice.

Pure economics.

im in love!!

Maybe I am one of the few who just thinks - "my car is not the most fuel-efficient, but I will go ahead and live with the fuel cost." 3.8 LeSabres are far from the best economy.
I figure if I decide i hate spending however much for fuel, I will get something smaller.
I don't know why the SUV owners don't embrace the same idea.

European cars are better for mileage, but some of them are real tiny and super ugly.
Feast your eyes on this ugly machine, and imagine trying to get comfy while driving it -
http://www.diseno-art.com/encycloped...lt_twingo.html

The citroën is even more awful looking [tho I would never tell my friend Claudine that...]-
http://www.citroen.com/CWW/fr-FR

wouldnt it be great if, in light of raised CAFE standards, GM decided to bring back the 3800?

leave me alone to my dreams.

When was the last time you guys took a road trip ?

I drove to Charlotte NC last week and then on to Myrtle Beach. There were no "small" cars to speak of. The small ones were being driven by one person, which makes sense. When you need to pack a family of 4, luggage and pets you need bigger. I drove my wife'* Chrylser Pacifica. I would have like to have gotten better mileage (25), I would have liked to have taken the Bonne. When they can give me the room for all the crap we took with us, with the comfort of her car and room to stretch without poking somebodies eye out I'm all for it. But until then I want my big comfy car. Notice that Hyundai, Toyota, Honda etc have redesigned their cars over the last few years and their big sales pitch is "bigger - more roomy interior". I can pull up next to a guy in a Hyundai and ask what kinda mileage he gets. I get the same in the Bonne and I drive what is considered Full Size.

Don't get me wrong save the environment and all but don't blame the auto industry alone.

The people in big oil are making more profit now than they have ever before, which says to me gas prices do not need to be this high.

If they stop making full size "gas guzzlers" then I will have to drive 2 small cars to visit family. where is the envirnoment in that picture.

I also think as Americans we need to start using our brains. IE: You drove a Hummer to the grocery store, alone, to get a loaf of bread ???? That makes no sense to me. A Hummer or huge turbo diesel is designed for WORK not groceries. People who have these vehicle should seriously consider something more fuel effiecent for none WORK things.

I drive a Bonne cause I like it. I put customers that would not fit in a Hyundai tiberon or geo metro in it. I haul all sorts of crap in the trunk.

I also walk to the grocery for milk or bread. My wifes car goes 6 months before it goes 3000 miles.

People need to use there heads and right now the gov't has lost theres.

Sorry if I rant but I just got home from vacation and the drive was rough. Don't even get me started on IDIOT drivers.