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Old 03-01-2004, 02:19 AM   #31
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I saw it. Definatly not an "entertainment" movie (which I don't think anyone expected it to be), but it made you think. Yes, it is very violent, but historicly the whole thing was violent, so if you are going to make it accurate then that'* gonna be the case. I've seen a few different movies that show the same sequence of events, and I think this came, by far, the closest to being true to the actual way it went. Subtitles aren't a problem, espcially if you a familiar with the story. And, as previously stated...it is in no way a kids movie.
But how do we know how the actual event happened, yes we generally go by what the bible tells us but first of all at the time of Jesus Christianity was outlawed by the Romans and its practitioners did it in private so the bible wasnt mass distributed till much later and it has been re written by so many people with their own biases and it was originally passed on by word of mouth which tends to mistake facts as with (this is not just the case with biblical history as any history from this time is difficult to study because of lack of documents(believe me I have met this frustration many times trying to write papers)) . Im not ragging on the bible saying its a piece of trash but history has not been kind to it in the case of complete accuracy. There is no one document of how it exactly happened as many texts and documents were destroyed in the fall of rome and other times of looting. I think from what we have always been told Gibson did a good job but we will never really absolutly know what happened.
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There are some interesting things to consider even if you are not religious (ie historical perspective). I'm not really sure if the movie is good or bad. If you do not care for Jesus as a spiritual or historical figure, I would not recommend going. If you are even slightly Christian (no matter the particular flavor), you will be moved or in my case . . . . . . . I really can't put into words the way I felt leaving the theater.
That'* the same thing I said when I got to the car. That it was the
first time that I had ever went to a movie and from the start of the
movie, during and after. No one made a sound. Not even the kids.
Except for the claps at the end of the movie.

I thought it was Great! I don't think it is for younger kids that do not
already know the story of Jesus. But I think we can all get something
out of this movie even if your not spiritual. Like what most of you who
seen it said, it made you think!

Well one thing I got out of the movie was a new understanding of what real
love and sacrifice is. And after all they did to him he still prayed for them!
I don't know a Great Love then that.

But it gets even deeper then that.....but I not going to go there know.
But I will say that this story is not just a religious one. It'* a story that all
men should hear and know. A True Love story...........
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I saw it. Definatly not an "entertainment" movie (which I don't think anyone expected it to be), but it made you think. Yes, it is very violent, but historicly the whole thing was violent, so if you are going to make it accurate then that'* gonna be the case. I've seen a few different movies that show the same sequence of events, and I think this came, by far, the closest to being true to the actual way it went. Subtitles aren't a problem, espcially if you a familiar with the story. And, as previously stated...it is in no way a kids movie.
But how do we know how the actual event happened, yes we generally go by what the bible tells us but first of all at the time of Jesus Christianity was outlawed by the Romans and its practitioners did it in private so the bible wasnt mass distributed till much later and it has been re written by so many people with their own biases and it was originally passed on by word of mouth which tends to mistake facts as with (this is not just the case with biblical history as any history from this time is difficult to study because of lack of documents(believe me I have met this frustration many times trying to write papers)) . Im not ragging on the bible saying its a piece of trash but history has not been kind to it in the case of complete accuracy. There is no one document of how it exactly happened as many texts and documents were destroyed in the fall of rome and other times of looting. I think from what we have always been told Gibson did a good job but we will never really absolutly know what happened.
I understand this arguement...and being somewhat lacking in apologetics-will just say this-I believe that there have been some evidence of some of these events, and yes most of this is just oral tradition-but there are somethings that Christians/Catholics believe that we can't say "here'* physical proof"-that'* why it'* *faith*.
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I totally agree about the faith thing, and I think its more the little things that get turned around and mistaken not the big parts of the event, I guess thats why I am going to be a history teacher as I usually have to have physical proof of something before I believe in it. (yes I know that can lead to a bleak outlook on life but I have lost a lot of "faith" in recent times seeing what goes on with people who worship yet have horrible things happen to them)
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I'm waiting for video because I have a hard time watching anything really graphic on the big screen ...It'* one thing to watch it....but it'* another to see it larger than life in a stifled, darkened room ...but I'm very curious to see it just because it'* supposed to be so moving and it sounds pretty educational from a theological standpoint...
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Good points in this thread. As for me I haven't seen it yet, but it will be the next movie I see. Hopefully very soon.
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I saw it Saturday and it is an excellent movie. If you are a Christian you get to see exactly what Jesus went through for all of us. It was horrific the things they did to him. It makes you be thankful to be saved and makes you feel unworthy for the sacrifice he made to die for our sins. It is a powerful movie that I highly recommend to everyone. I also support the Left Behind books as another way of showing you how things might play out. Both follow scripture and show you things that will come to pass.
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I also support the Left Behind books as another way of showing you how things might play out. Both follow scripture and show you things that will come to pass.
Oh yeah! Left Behind books are great!... I have read the first four and need to buy the rest of the series. It'* interesting to read a depiction of what it might be like to live through Revelations. That'* some scary stuff.
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I just got home from seeing it. I'm a born again Christian- been studying the God'* Word at school for a bunch of years now. (just so you know my bent) I understood the practicality of the Sacrifice that Christ made Himself, but to then see a picture of it. He was scorged so intensly because Pilot hoped it would be enough for the people to accept as due punishment- so he wouldn't have to kill him, so i knew it was bad, but holy cow... Mel Gibson said that in the movie it is his hands that put the nails in Christ'* hands- because he knows it is his sin that still puts Christ there. the Jews didnt' kill Jesus. First of all, He gave His life. Second of all, it was ME that required Him to do so. Everytime i sin, i am one of those with the wips. Thats how much my God loves me.

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I am in pretty much the same boat as Jeff here. I just wanted to add that for those of you who saw it, and it made you think. I would encourage all of you to try to go a little deeper, figure out why it made you think, and why you felt the way you did after the movie. I was the same way when i got out of it.... speechless. I am a firm believe in "seek and ye shall find" After the movie i "seeked" out why the movie affected me the way it did. I found the same things as jeff... that is showed me that I did that to him, when i sin.. I spit on his face, yet he loves me so much to do all that for me. Amazing... thats all i got to say. Thanks for reading, i know i'm coming from a diffrent place than some of you, but i just thought what better place to share than here?
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I just got home from seeing it. I'm a born again Christian- been studying the God'* Word at school for a bunch of years now. (just so you know my bent) I understood the practicality of the Sacrifice that Christ made Himself, but to then see a picture of it. He was scorged so intensly because Pilot hoped it would be enough for the people to accept as due punishment- so he wouldn't have to kill him, so i knew it was bad, but holy cow... Mel Gibson said that in the movie it is his hands that put the nails in Christ'* hands- because he knows it is his sin that still puts Christ there. the Jews didnt' kill Jesus. First of all, He gave His life. Second of all, it was ME that required Him to do so. Everytime i sin, i am one of those with the wips. Thats how much my God loves me.

jeff

I am in pretty much the same boat as Jeff here. I just wanted to add that for those of you who saw it, and it made you think. I would encourage all of you to try to go a little deeper, figure out why it made you think, and why you felt the way you did after the movie. I was the same way when i got out of it.... speechless. I am a firm believe in "seek and ye shall find" After the movie i "seeked" out why the movie affected me the way it did. I found the same things as jeff... that is showed me that I did that to him, when i sin.. I spit on his face, yet he loves me so much to do all that for me. Amazing... thats all i got to say. Thanks for reading, i know i'm coming from a diffrent place than some of you, but i just thought what better place to share than here?
I saw the movie last Thursday, and agree with Jeff and Wolfedog. This is a movie that everyone should see. I haven't read the Left Behind books yet, but my parents say they are good too, I'll have to check them out.
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