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Old 10-23-2006, 08:14 PM   #51
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He has plenty of credibility mechanically. He'* proven time and time again he knows his stuff about cars ... and racing for that matter. He'* just one that goes against the grain and brings criticism. However, many on here don't seem to take well to that sort of thing. Never have either...


Ok, Shawn'* mechanical reputation carries more weight in the predicted potential perfomance of a S1 L67 that he has no personal experience with, than the wrenches, gearheads, track hounds, and other members on the West Coast that HAVE experience with it?

This reminds me of the funny offline comments I've heard from second-hand offline communications between members. I've been accused of HIDING rockers, a Cam, and Nitrous at different times. Yet this isn't really possible considering the fact that my car is no secret to anyone on the West Coast. In fact, every attendee of WCBF05 saw my motor torn down.

The points have been made very well above by Matt, John Wikoff, and Greyhare. Greyhare'* comments are worth repeating:

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No claims were made. Some members with more than a little track time and experience with both S1 and S2 L67'* made some predictions about the Zilla'* potential. Those educated guesses were made based on experience with both engines and Zilla.
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predictions, educated guesses, claims, etc.

We can twist around the terms all night, but you know what I was saying.
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predictions, educated guesses, claims, etc.

We can twist around the terms all night, but you know what I was saying.
You got a bug up your butt?

Someone asked a question. People are trying to express the potential of the S1. One of the campfire discussions at WCBF amongst a few members of this Forum discussed just that topic at the end of July.

These predictions were shared as part of this topic based on their PREDICTIONS.

Problem?
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No, no problem at all.

I really don't have much more to say about this. It seems as if we are going nowhere.
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I guess the biggest point to make here (in my mind anyway) is this:

At some point in a discussion or debate, you have to ask yourself if your opinion might be a bit off when those with experience say otherwise

It'* called being objective and open-minded.
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I'm quite an open-minded person if you really knew me.

And don't think I disregarded those who have seen your car. I am saying is that when there is criticism, you seem to get overly defensive.
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I'm quite an open-minded person if you really knew me.

And don't think I disregarded those who have seen your car. I am saying is that when there is criticism, you seem to get overly defensive.
When someone with no experience with something argues with those that HAVE experience with it, particularly when it'* MY thing that I ALSO have experience with, yes, I get defensive.

You see, I was IN my car when I beat the modified S2'* to the 1/8. I'm pretty sure myself and the other 11 members of this Forum that saw it weren't daydreaming.
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And do you expect everyone on this heavily populated message board, on the Internet, to just sit back and nod their heads, regardless of what you have done or what others have seen?
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And do you expect everyone on this heavily populated message board, on the Internet, to just sit back and nod their heads, regardless of what you have done or what others have seen?
Well, you'd kinda think that the 18 members of this Forum that attended WCBF06 and witnessed it would carry SOME credibility, wouldn't you? So I guess in that regard, there probably should be a LITTLE head nodding?

Dontcha think?
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Ironic, isn't it? After 4 years, I finally have my SSEi to a point where it can actually compete with well-modded S2'* for at least PART of the run, and I get a bucket of **** over other people'* predictions around a campfire.

Kinda makes you wonder why I even try, eh?
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