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Old 12-23-2006, 11:20 PM   #21
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cvc, please edit and add to your posts if there'* no reply rather than posting over and over.

Yes, you should do it. You can't afford to have it fail. You'll **** when you see them.

Make a post in 92-99 and ask what gaskets and materials (including coolant elbow) and you'll get hooked right up. Then go to National and Regional Meets and check the NEBF topic. You'll have a good crowd to help you with it.

You are in NY, right?
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hwo do you edit the post ? I tried but it didn't work im probably doing something wrong. I live near Syracuse NY. My 98 Bonnie was changed because the intake shows a 2000 date. I have put over 150k on this car myself and chgd the coolant too but it doesn't go down at all, shouldn't I just wait till I notice missing coolant ? Also my Park Ave is a 1999 and the intake shows a 2002 date, not sure when it was done but it has 70k on the car should I also just keep an eye on it ? I am not sure who did the repair but it looks like the lower was done also because you can see the bright orange edge sticking out ? The Bonnie will probably be sold or dumped after winter and then the Park will be put on the road. I hate to get rid of the Bonnie as besides having 212k miles it is in really good shape with NO rust, oh well thanks for the info and help. I will post on the 99 site.Now you said got to "National Meets" is this a web site or a real meet ? Pls inform,thanks again !
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hwo do you edit the post ? I tried but it didn't work im probably doing something wrong. I live near Syracuse NY. My 98 Bonnie was changed because the intake shows a 2000 date. I have put over 150k on this car myself and chgd the coolant too but it doesn't go down at all, shouldn't I just wait till I notice missing coolant ? Also my Park Ave is a 1999 and the intake shows a 2002 date, not sure when it was done but it has 70k on the car should I also just keep an eye on it ? I am not sure who did the repair but it looks like the lower was done also because you can see the bright orange edge sticking out ? The Bonnie will probably be sold or dumped after winter and then the Park will be put on the road. I hate to get rid of the Bonnie as besides having 212k miles it is in really good shape with NO rust, oh well thanks for the info and help. I will post on the 99 site.Now you said got to "National Meets" is this a web site or a real meet ? Pls inform,thanks again !
Don't edit them now. Let it go. Next time.

I changed the UIM and gaskets on EK98'* car 3 months ago. HIs manufactured date is March of 2002. His manifold was failing, and his gaskets were absolute * H I T.

We did his as a preventive measure. He had no symptoms yet. D a m n good thing we did, too.

You should do the whole top end with an APN kit or a Dillon UIM ($60 for the Dillon).

The whole job on EK98'* care was well under 200 bucks. Probably closer to 150.

The point being that if it fails before you fix it, you may suffer bottom end (bearing/crank) damage and lose the engine. It'* happened to more than one member here.
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Mine failed twice. first time was 130K and then at 185K ( I think). My water pumpwent out around 200K. My intake elbow failed sometime before either of those problems happend, I was at work and noticed the antifreeze leaking out on the pavement.
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I thought you said in your other topic that you were all original with nothing replaced? That'* why I warned you.

Keep in mind if you still have Dexcool and an OEM replacement or Dorman upper intake, you still have a problem.

The fix is lose the Dex, go to an APN upper or Dillon upper/Buttermore stovepipe, and replace the LIM gaskets with the new GM design with the aluminum frames.
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I thought you said in your other topic that you were all original with nothing replaced? That'* why I warned you.

Keep in mind if you still have Dexcool and an OEM replacement or Dorman upper intake, you still have a problem.

The fix is lose the Dex, go to an APN upper or Dillon upper/Buttermore stovepipe, and replace the LIM gaskets with the new GM design with the aluminum frames.
I'll edit it. I was trying to refer to engine and tranny rebuilds in there (major stuff).
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so ALL red coolant is supposed to be bad ? Not sure if mine is trademark DExCool I purchased it at Walmart. So if im reading this right I should change both the Bonnie and the Park even though they may be ok ?
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The Prestone long-life Dex compatible is good. If you don't know for sure what you have, I'd flush them and put in known good.

jr's3800 is probably our best expert on the DEX and compatible stuff. PM him a link to this topic.
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It sounds like he got the Prestone Longlife.... The Prestone is actually Orange where the Dex is more of a pinkish red...

The Prestone is not Dex, but it is compatible with dex... In the near future I will be pulling the lower intake to see what the gaskets look like with the Prestone Longlife.... At that time I will install the new Alluminum Frame LIM gaskets

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ok the jug says "GM Dexcool approved " Then in big letters Prestone. So...good or evil ??
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