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Old 09-19-2006, 08:04 PM
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Hey Paul,
Where did you attain your GEN V?
My GEN V is still sitting on the shelf here until I can obtain a good motor -I'm not risking anything with the engine that'* in my 99 as there were metal shavings on the dip stick (looking at a bidding on a totalled 2000 GTP w/38k on it).
I can't wait to get mine in the 99, but they way it looks it could be as late as December before I have it installed.
I just dropped mine off at my machine shop to see if they could smooth out the opening too.
It will be awesome to have you here if I have any ?'* while I'm installing mine.
Old 09-19-2006, 10:18 PM
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You guys were expecting this......Replace those needle bearings while you have it open. It'* worth the time.
Yes it is a used Gen V that I got off of INTENSE....I'm assuming from a wrecked 04.

I believe they want an additional $500 to replace bearings and port and polish it.
In hindsight, I should have had them do it.

The TB threaded hole just had a small sliver of thread shaving inside. I fished it out and it looks OK.

The more I look at the more I want to tear it apart and do a number on it. Who knows how many miles are on it. :?

How is it possible to inspect the bearings without removing them?
Where do I find new needle bearings?

If I start buffing and polishing it, how can I avoid contaminating the bearings? Probably not.
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Paul, I have a proposition. A GenV is on my list. I think we can both be satisfied with a winter timeframe. Send it to me. Buy the bearings, and I'll replace them. Let me compare to the porting I've done on the Gen2 and Gen3'* (doing a Gen3 M90 at the same time), and send it back. This is a good opportunity to see what MIGHT be necessary for porting and polishing, even if it is just general 'smoothing'.

My next Gen3 M62 is intended as a Gen3/Gen5 hybrid, and this will be a good opportunity for me as well, to compare the generations.
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I like your idea Bill.

I am excited about the swap but the function of porting and polishing is new to me and I don't have those tools or experience.

With your porting and polishing experience and familiarity with these supercharges, I have all the confidence in the world that you will do it right.

I'll bet my Gen V on it. :P
I also bet it will lower temps by a few degrees and gain me 5-10 hp.

Give me some time to separate the parts and pack it up.

Work is only giving me about 2 hours a day besides sleep of free time and that includes weekends for the next three weeks, so you won't see it before mid Oct.

You have to promise to have it back to me by Christmas.

Oh ya, I forgot to tell you something.
It'* still not my Gen V.
In actuality, it'* still O'Neil'* until I pay him for it.

......so if you mess it up, just ship it to Mackenzie. .......sure hope Nichole doesn't read this.
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I suspected that might be the case. I knew he bought it and it hadn't shipped from INTENSE yet.

I have a Gen3 M90 coming as well, so this will be a great comparison opportunity for all of us.

I also have ANOTHER Gen3 M62 coming for my next change, and still have a Gen2 M62 as well. In other words, this is a PRIME opportunity to compare the 4 common SC'* we see here, side-by-side.

I intend to do nothing more on your GenV than to smooth out the 'factory casting flaws' and change the needle bearings.

2 jars of sockeye salmon will fit in the empty case nicely.
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Just couldn't resist tearing into it after talking on the phone with Bill and having him cry and whine to me......I could sense the drool rolling down his chin over the thought of grinding into this baby.

This Gen V is a much nicer casing than the Gen III. The outlet will not need much if any polishing.
The inlet is a different story. It is rougher than I'd like to see it.

The lower intake manifold ports that mate with the head ports are fugly and really could use some matching and porting.

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Old 09-20-2006, 07:48 AM
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1) We did not sell this Gen V, it was Pontaic Dad'* who got it from Ed Morad I think and it was sitting at our shop for some reason. We take no responsibility for its "dirty condition".

2) Of course we will replace the gaskets, I'm sending new ones out today.
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Replacements are on the way, sorry bout the packaging issues :(
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Todd, apparently only Salmon is safe for shipping over the border. All other items will be damaged.
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Psst Bill..send it my way....I'll send beer and steak (pre seasoned that is! )

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