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Old 02-28-2007, 11:52 AM   #41
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Ok better yet then... No website for them lol. and less info on the internet...
I deal with companies on a daily basis that have no website. And they're among the best in the business. They leave the website to their licensed distributors.

Bandit, you have no real concrete information on these lights, and nothing positive to say, so please remove yourself from posting any further in this topic.

In the future, you need to find a more constructive way of expressing yourself. Your opinions are based solely on what you've read from a bunch of other haters, and not based on the opinions of the owners of this kit or by your own experience with HID'*.

I have high hopes that these will perform well and last a long time. Considering there are other owners amongst our GB brothers, I think this is a fairly safe bet at least.
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Again, there are a lot of guy over on clubgp that love the lights, so don't be haters!!!
Ask him how he likes them in 3-4 years.

Philips, Hella, Denso ballasts will still be working strong. McCulloch, ChungKung Fooey, Bling Lights, or whoever fake-phillips ballasts they are, will most likely have died 1-3 years prior.

I have McCulloch ballats, I've had them for a year, they still work perfect. But, I think I'm the exception, not the rule.

I do run real Philips D2S burners, in real Bosch E46 projectors, tho.
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I'm sorry guys, but I have to side with badnit and Rob on this one. They are absolutely right, the Chinese kits do not have components that are anywhere near the quality of the Philips/Hella products. Go on to hidplanet.com (very well known HID forum) and do a search for Chinese.

Also, PLEASE PLEASE aim your headlights properly if you are going to install an HID Kit, regardless of what type. The bulbs are EXTREMELY bright and you may end up having to adjust your lenses down to keep the glare down.

Good luck with your installation, be sure to keep the ballast away from any and all water.
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I do run real Philips D2S burners, in real Bosch E46 projectors, tho.
I saw that install on your WJ -- what an awesome job. Major kudos.
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It'* funny, I see chinese this, chinese that, but NOBODY has any concrete information on this particular brand whatsoever.

KNOCK OFF THE NEGATIVE. Chinese this and chinese that has been stated 143 times in this topic already. HID Planet sounds like a bunch of Mac users to me. They automatically hate anything made in China.

NEWSFLASH:

China actually produces some pretty quality stuff these days. This isn't the 70'* any more.

Nobody has any positive or negative information on this brand/kit at all. So CHILL on the negative china-product-bashing. Keep it up, and someone is going to miss a good buy of a quality product because you said it was like 'all the other chinese garbage'.
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Bandit, you have no real concrete information on these lights, and nothing positive to say, so please remove yourself from posting any further in this topic.
Want something positive? 3 of those sets will cost the same as a set of OEM parts. That'* fairly positive.

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In the future, you need to find a more constructive way of expressing yourself. Your opinions are based solely on what you've read from a bunch of other haters, and not based on the opinions of the owners of this kit or by your own experience with HID'*.
Constructive. Here we go. From looking at the pictures, and from looking at dozens of different kits. You have bought one of many re-branded kits that are made to look like Philips ballasts. A lot of the "haters" as you call them, are "enlightened" people that bought cheap parts to begin with, and then after a year, went for some OEM quality stuff. The burners in your kit have no expansion joints that allow for a quality mount, with the heating/cooling cycles. Take a look at a Philips D2S, you'll see what I mean. Nowhere on the ballasts does it say made in japan, from what I can see. Yea, they'll work for now. You're going to blind people, tho. And, you'll probably notice too much foreground light. If those components last for 2 years, you'll be ahead of the game. But, if you're going to install them as I think you are, they'll probably not last that long. Did you upgrade your wiring harness yet?

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I have high hopes that these will perform well and last a long time. Considering there are other owners amongst our GB brothers, I think this is a fairly safe bet at least.
I have high hopes that anything I drive won't break down, either. And, those parts there, probably aren't the same parts that were put together in another kit 3, 6, 12 months ago. So, if you get a year out of it, then just buy another set then. Personally, I'd only use a cheap kit in a set of fog lights, as they're non-critical lighting, and if you lose one, or both, no big deal.
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I do run real Philips D2S burners, in real Bosch E46 projectors, tho.
I saw that install on your WJ -- what an awesome job. Major kudos.
Well, it'* not "awesome", it was the "easiest way to get real HID projectors in there without having to use two pounds of JB Weld".

I'm planning on another retrofit with different housings that just hit ebay. This time, I want to use bi-xenon projectors, so I'll effectively 4 high beams!
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Wren, do we get to mark this down as one of the few times you publicly support something illegal?

And that'* a pretty harsh comment about HID Planet, especially I doubt you have ever been there or read any of the information there. Isn't that doing the same thing you are trying to stop in this thread? Knocking w/o evidance, even though there seem to be a lot of facts presented. Do they have to be published in an article to be true?
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China actually produces some pretty quality stuff these days. This isn't the 70'* any more.
I"ll agree with you there. BUT, when quality stuff is made in china, it'* not as cheap as these $100-150 HID kits. I know someone who worked for a cel phone company, and he agrees they can make quality stuff over there, just takes more in the QA area, which drives up the cost, because of higher failure rates internally (as they fail QC checks), and more labor in doing the QC, and even using higher quality components.

So, i'd believe a chinese made kit could be good, but it'd be selling for at least $200, and maybe more. Kaixen, made in Taiwan, is fairly good quality. There, specific brand for ya, you'll find that they're well above that $200 mark.
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The problem is that you guys don't have any proof that this kit is a quality kit. The majority of Chinese kits are junk, it'* that simple. The proof is on forums all over the Internet. Therefore we are trying to warn people of the pontential pitfalls of buying an overseas kit with poor engineering.

For example, do you know what can happen if a ballast isn't sealed properly and water gets in there? That ballast outputs 35kV, or ~35,000 volts to ignite the bulb.

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KNOCK OFF THE NEGATIVE. Chinese this and chinese that has been stated 143 times in this topic already. HID Planet sounds like a bunch of Mac users to me. They automatically hate anything made in China.
Uhhh Bill nothing personal but before you start putting down a forum you have never been to, I'd at least go and visit. The wealth of knowledge about HID is phenomenal. I am surprised you'd post a comment like this...

The point is that we are talking about headlights. They are a safety item. Why go cheap on such a critical component in your car? I wouldn't take the risk, and I didn't, I purchased a $400 Philips kit of which the majority of the components are also used in my BMW which has factory D2S xenons.
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