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Old 03-21-2007, 08:36 PM   #21
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I was driving the car when it died. And it was 42 degrees.

BIG UPDATE!!!!!!

I've got a really bad headcold today, so I have not been very productive. I went out to the car to sit in it for a minute and turned the ignition to on. And I heard the FP relay click on and I hear fluid spraying out somewhere, YEP. FUEL. Remember when I said I tried to get the filter out? Well I didn't know, but apparently I fractured those brittle lines and it IS the filter that is clogged!!!!! The pump is FINE!!!! So I have the filter. Now I need lines. I still have no money for right now, but that is the situation. I was thinking of checking the JY for some non rusted lines, but I know that up here, there is not a very good chance for that. So I called the dealer and they said they have the lines and can custom cut, bend and such...BUT they charge a whole HECK of alot to do that....SO. Since I don't have the tools to do that work to raw fuel lines, does anyone know where I can get fuel lines installed rather cheap? I am looking into it, but wondering if anyone knows maybe a chain or something that does that stuff cheap. I can install them, I just need them cut, bent and flanged.
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Old 03-22-2007, 08:15 AM   #22
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Good to hear it'* not the pump. Money wise, that saves a few bucks.

You still need to drop the tank to get the fuel lines out, so you can make copies of them from raw tubing.

In an emergency situation I would do the following: (other gearheads look the other way for a moment, cause what I'm about to say isn't kosher) Cut out the fuel filter and the cracked section of fuel line with a hacksaw or pipe cutter. Put brass hose barbs on the filter, and install with rubber fuel line hose and hose clamps. Costs about $4 to get the car up and running again until you have the money to get new steel fuel lines. This is only intended to be a temporary solution, not a permanent one. Ya know, get you to work and back till the next paycheck.

It'* not a question of the hose being able to hold the pressure..it'* perfectly capable of holding the 80psi max pressure, if fact you have a rubber hose in the line now up at the engine. You just don't want a rubber fuel line on the undercarrage of the car where it can get hit by road debris...that'* why the lines are steel down there.

Some other thoughts: The junkyard solution is viable if you find a decent line. If it is a U-Pull-It yard, then you get to practice dropping the tank on a junker before you do it to your car. Otherwise, you might get a usable line that will work, then take the old line a have a copy made when money permits. Also, look in the phone book for hydrualic supply companies. They can bend and flair tubing too...and usually do a better job of it cause that'* ALL they do Down here, Central Florida Hydraulic is my number one source for all things auto plumbing related.
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Last thought, For when you have all the materials to put new steel lines in:

When you drop the fuel tank, remove the pump/sender assembly from the top of the tank and flush the tank out.

Since there was enough debris to plug up the filter, there'* probably a ton of rust flakes inside the tank to be rinsed out. With the tank out of the car, there no sense in leaving anything in the tank to plug up the new filter. Also check out the condition of the filter on the pickup of the pump.
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(other gearheads look the other way for a moment, cause what I'm about to say isn't kosher) Cut out the fuel filter and the cracked section of fuel line with a hacksaw or pipe cutter. Put brass hose barbs on the filter, and install with rubber fuel line hose and hose clamps.
(Didn't look away quickly enough.) Just make sure you get the right hose. There is hose made for fuel but not pressure. You need to be sure you get the stuff for fuel under pressure. Most places call it "fuel injection hose." It is pricey, but as Curt says, it will work fine.
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Clogged or frozen line or filter the pump won't run. I you havent done lines before its best to get prices from garages.
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Old 03-22-2007, 05:18 PM   #26
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Uhh. Hmm.

I need help then. I had the understanding that the only lines that need replacing are the ones that meet up to the FF...

I don't have the stuff to drop the tank. I really didn't wanna do that. I do understand that there is probably tons of sediment in it and all that, but I don't have the space!!! umm. I have about $200 to spend on fixing the car. and thats about my limit. What do I have to do here? New tank straps, clean out tank, new lines and the fuel line shaping tools. the ones that are protected by wire looms i think are fine, but i have not checked.

Whats the plan of attack, what tools do i need, what am I DOING. Please let me know SOON. I might be going to the parts store in about 40 mins! I can't change that, I am catching a ride.
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in your case just to get the car up and running, you just need to fix the broken line. thats all i would do if i was in your case.
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well whats the final verdict, leaving right now. am i dropping the tank? any one who really needs to get a point across gimme a call at the contact number on the bonnevillepics website.
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ok. just got back from the parts store. got 5 feet of fuel line, a tubing bender, cutter and some pressure fittings. Also remembered to get some PB Blaster. Gonna go spray it down right now and do the work tomorrow morning. We shall see!!
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Not really sure why you didn't do hose.

Good luck tomorrow
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