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Old 07-26-2007, 04:04 PM   #21
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Maybe if you weren't pushing quite so hard (hint hint) and were willing to work through this (wink wink) things could have been different for you.
~There had been a long string of emails prior to my posting, which eludes to my willingness to work through my issue. I work for a manufacturing company and when we send out "defective" product, we at least offer to pick up the freight. In this case $10 for each shipment. (OEM, + PCM #1, + PCM #3 = $30 in freight). That is the least we can do for inconveniencing our customers. I realize that not everyone can be held to such standards. Que sera sera

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As for the case learn..many here have given you suggestions for lower cost or free case learns, yet it appears you haven't explored those options. Before I looked around I would have had to pay for a learn if I needed one. People made similar suggestions and my case learns have been free while relaxing and talking cars with buddies..
~I have posted to several forums and asked around for help as recommended by all. Today, someone very near me posted a response that they can help lower my costs on a CASE learn, which is awesome. The advice given by everyone here is most appreciated and proven very beneficial. I was offered a free CASE learn by INTENSE (if fans came on at shut down), however the distance between us made it impractical. I also had an offer from someone on Michigan, yet again the distance was too great. I PM'd a local through this site asking who he knew to see if he could help. I have called around to all GM dealerships in a 15 mile radius looking for price quotes. That said, I did explore all options.

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On another note..if you are modded heavily enough to need a 160.(not indicated in sig)...I need to wonder if you shouldn't be seeking another option besides off the shelf pcm as Shawn had eluded.
~There are future plans to take my car further into the next performance bracket. The 160 was to reduce engine heat and will be beneficial as more mods are added. I agree, perhaps I should look into getting my own tuner. The CAI and scan gauge are next.
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Not sure how this ended up in Electrical, but this goes in Performance. It'* a better fit.
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GetOverkilled.com'* PCM offering:

"Our PCMs have much more intricate fueling revisions, based on time at full
throttle, throttle positions, variable fueling between different cylinders
etc. Spark tables have been altered to provide better throttle response and
increase full throttle timing to performance oriented but still safe levels,
and timing is reduced in certain areas to prevent KR such as low rpm high
load situations. KR activation is enhanced to provide more engine protection
and recovery rates are faster to provide more power when detonation isn't
occuring. Timing advance is retarded when the intake air temperatures begin
to increase, to prevent KR and provide good incentive to draw in cooler
airflow! Boost control is used to provide better gas mileage and prevent
dangerous boost spikes, while we also prevent boost being cut on high speed
runs as a form of speed limiting. Fan controls are proprietary, annoying
DTCs are disabled, we even turn off the A/C when you start getting into
boost to provide more power and less wear on the compressor. And every PCM
is custom calibrated, so you can make any requests to address trouble areas
on your vehicle, have any level of modifications, and we will provide a
customized PCM for your vehicle included in the pricetag, no additional
costs.
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That'* a nicely worded paragraph. Do they give you any idea of how much they change timing or if the fans, will work on key off?
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that PCM is also $300+$100 core
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that PCM is also $300+$100 core
Yikes! If true, you could just about buy your own tuner for that...

To the OP...I may have the answer to why your fans won't come on at keyoff; but I have to test it with the PowrTuner over the weekend.
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that PCM is also $300+$100 core
"Pricing on a trade of your Intense PCM would be 50% off of our normal $159US
price, plus $20 for shipping costs. You can either send in your Intense PCM
along with a $99 money order or paypal payment, or we can send you one first
for $239 with $140 of that being fully refundable upon return of your
Intense unit. I will offer you a 30 day guarantee that if you don't like our
PCM or it doesn't work to expectations, I will refund your money."
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I think at this point, my options are futile. I don't have, nor would I want to go back to the OEM PCM and if I wanted to go to another competitor, I would still have to get the CASE learn done again. I'm truly hoping HP Tuners can add the fan on feature to the code for INTENSE and eventually I'll get what I paid for. Not only for me, but for anyone else that has a 99' SSEi. I agree that not having the fans come on at shut down is not enough to justify swapping out PCMs. I think the experience was just down right awful. Although, to their credit, I am grateful that INTENSE diagnosed the issue pre-CASE learn procedure and saved me $118.

I think I would've been happy or somewhat satisfied with my experience if I were offered even a mild discount on something I really wanted....like a scan gauge (hint, hint). But hey, hindsight is always 20/20.
My question is for all that money - why do you even want to have the fans come on after the car shuts off. I would just run an Auxhillary fan and run it through a switch straight from the battery so you can choose to turn it on and off when you please. Thats alot to go thru just for the fans to come on.
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