After Wren mentioned the utility bills, I ran a search. Guess it made big news, but no one could do anything to explain WHY the bills were so high(aside from using 221,000 kilowatt hours of electricity. The best part is where it shows that his usage went up by 2000 kilowatt hours a month between 2005 and 2006.), they just dodged around it saying "it'* a last ditch effort of the non-believers of global warming". Nothing like damage control...

Yahbut he buys "green credits" to offset his extravagant use of electricity.

Another case of "do as I say, not what I do"

Goes to show, you can only trust a politician as far as you can throw him. At least that stand true for me, since I have trouble salt over my shoulder, let alone another person.

yay for calling bullsh!t!

Then introduce them to An Inconvenient Book. That ought to shut them up.

Lol, I saw hime in Idaho Falls about a month ago. Hilarious!

But yeah, climate change is one thing, global warming is another. The hipocrisy of those touting global warming is enough to turn me off of it. The climate may or may not be changing, but even if it is, think about it. There are so many variables that have an effect on our climate, the sun, the moon, Earth'* core, jet stream, the list goes on and on, some people seem to forget that Earth came out of an Ice Age without human help.

Yeah, mother nature can be a bit humbling. We wring our hands and worry about the cumulative effects of pollution, yet one natural volcanic event can blow the whole thing away. The eruption of Tambora in 1815 altered the weather for an entire year in a way that the entire industrial revolution could not. Krakatoa in 1883 and Pinatubo in 1991 had similar long term effects on weather.

Now, should a bigger one, like Mt Rainier, pop it'* cork, we are in serious trouble. God forbin Yellowstone lights off in our lifetime, we can kiss civilization, and most if not all of the human race, good-bye.

So, in whole, the theory of global warming induced by mankinds activities is dwarfed by what can be dropped on our heads with little or no warning.

Do I like the idea of cutting our fuel consumption and not making a mess where we have to live? sure I do. But I'm not buying into the hysteria..we got bigger problems to address.

Oh yeah, and the sun will consume the planet in about a billion years anyway, so what'* it matter?

So, in the end "Global Warming" will prevail

Seriously, the possibility of Global Warming is of lesser concern to me than what the next 50 to 100 years holds for us at our current rate of consumption.

The short term solution is to tell the enviromentalists and the Al Gore types to go get stuffed...then start burning coal in our oil fired power plants (many of which *were* coal fired until the price of oil dropped below coal), uranium in as many nuke plants as we can stomach, and start pushing home grown fuels hard...really hard. Do this until we can knock down our consumption of energy to a level we can sustain on our own.

I like Gail Bank'* idea on the subject: "We burn deisel, we give money to people who want to kill us...Burn Bio-Diesel, we give money to ourselves, or to people we would like to hang out with." There'* a lot of truth in that. It would mean major changes to the way the agriculture business work in this country as well as in Canada, but it offers up the best long term solution to our oil addiction.

why worry bout the sun exploding?

the earth is going to plummet into the sun even if it doesnt explode. every year the sun robs a little bit of our velocity. . .