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Old 07-07-2004, 05:55 PM   #41
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To see the facts concerning the lies in Fahrenheit 9/11:


Here'* an article on nuclear material discovered in Iraq:


And here is an article on WMDs:

Polish troops in Iraq recently have discovered "16 or 17" warheads containing sarin or mustard gas, according to Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld.

"Now these are weapons that we always knew Saddam Hussein had that he had not declared, and they have tested them, and I have not seen them, and I have not tested them, but they believe that they are correct that these, in fact, were undeclared chemical weapons ... ," Rumsfeld told radio talk host Roger Hedgecock in an interview transcribed and posted on the Department of Defense website.

Rumsfeld said he was told of the discovery of the "quite lethal" chemical weapons by the Polish minister of defense at the NATO summit in Turkey last weekend.

The troops had made the find "within the last period of days" before the summit, he said.

Arguing for the difficulty of finding WMD in a country the size of California, Rumsfeld pointed out the hole where ousted dictator Saddam Hussein was captured "was probably big enough to hold chemical and biological weapons sufficient to kill tens of thousands of people."

Rumsfeld also mentioned the U.*. had found jet aircraft Hussein'* regime had buried in sand.

Hedgecock asked Rumsfeld to comment on published reports that Syria is hiding Iraq'* WMD.

The defense secretary acknowledged "there have been a lot of intelligence speculation and rumors and chatter about the fact that Saddam Hussein may have placed some of his weapons of mass destruction in Syria prior to the start of the war."

But he said, "Until that can be validated and proved, you’ll find people in the administration not talking about it."



Here is the DOD transcript:


I'm a Navy Veteran (I wish I was back on active duty) and I was a Republican for 12 years and I have been an Independant for 4 years. I don't think Bush is Perfect but he is the best choice we have this election year.

Kerry is talking about going to the UN on his "hands and knees" and ask them for their forgiveness and support in Iraq.

"The notion that somehow bringing the United Nations into the situation in Iraq will actually help Iraq, considering the United Nations track record in past “peace keeping” operations requires unwarranted optimism, considering its track record.

Here we are a matter of months away from the fall of Baghdad and we have those who opposed the U.N. doing anything about Saddam Hussein complaining that perfect peace has not settled on Baghdad because the United States wouldn’t let the United Nations take control of Iraq, after it did nothing to help solve the problem?

Out of curiosity, just WHERE in the world has the United Nations ever actually brought about peace by their “peacekeeping” forays into nations? How about Kashmir?

For those of you who were not around then, the first “Peacekeeping” mission undertaken by the United Nations was in 1948, shortly after it voted to create the nation of Israel. The same day Israel’* independence, created under UN resolutions, took place its Arab neighbors invaded. Israel won the war.

A UN peacekeeping mission was established. On July 26, 1956, President Nasser of Egypt nationalizes the Suez Canal; five weeks after the British troops withdrew in hope of placating Nasser. Once Egypt had control of the canal, in violation of the 1951 UN agreement that the canal would be open to all nations, Egypt closed the canal to Israeli shipping, signed a tripartite military alliance with Syria and Jordan and permitted terrorist incursions into Israel from the Gaza Strip and Sinai. In late October and early November, Israel captures the Gaza Strip and the entire Sinai Peninsula, including the Suez Canal.

The United Nations convinces Israel to withdraw, unilaterally, from the occupied territory and allow a United Nations Emergency force to guarantee the free navigation in the Gulf of Eliat. Israel withdraws. In 1968, in violation of the agreement, Nasser demands that the United Nations forces withdraw and they withdraw. The 1967 war immediately broke out, which Israel won.

This led to UN Security Council Resolution 242, which called for "acknowledgment of the sovereignty, territorial integrity and political independence of every state in the area and their right to live in peace within secure and recognized boundaries free from threats or acts of force." The Arab nations continue to ignore UN Resolution 242. So much for the UN and its peacekeeping skills in the Middle East. The UN’* second major peacekeeping attempt was in January 1949 when the United Nations Military Observer Group for India and Pakistan was deployed to supervise the ceasefire between the two nations behind the UN mandated “Line of Control” in Jammu and Kashmir. Fifty years later, in 1999, it was reported that there STILL were 300 people a MONTH being killed in the ongoing conflict in Kashmir. No one even bothers to report anymore how many people are killed every year in terrorist activities.

In more recent times, in 1992 there was the United Nations Peacekeeping gambit in Somalia. As the BBC described it, “when peacekeepers arrived in Mogadishu in 1992, they found they were not wanted.

“The Somali warlords had little respect for the blue helmets of the UN, or for the US soldiers who were bolstering the UN force.

“Some peacekeepers were killed, and the bodies of dead US soldiers were paraded through the streets of Mogadishu. When a US helicopter was shot down in 1994, President Clinton withdrew U.*. Troops.

“A year later, in 1995, the UN also withdrew, confessing failure.”

Those failures of UN peace keeping were followed by UN failures to prevent massive killings in Bosnia, Rwanda, where genocide took place as UN Peacekeepers stood by, Sierra Leone, and East Timor. These UN Peacekeeping failures are not exactly ancient history. What nation, under UN peacekeepers, has EVER become a strong, untied, peaceful nation with a growing economy?

On the other hand, nations that have been reorganized under United States military control include Germany and Japan, much of Western Europe and Kuwait.

The real question the world should be asking is whether Iraq should be sentenced to suffer the torture other nations have endured while under the control of United Nations “Peace” keepers." bannerofliberty.com
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Old 07-07-2004, 07:32 PM   #42
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Looks boring, rather see that movie with those two Tiger cubs in Asia or something
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I will RENT F 9/11, but will not pay $12 CDN to go and watch it. I liked BFC, but on the other hand only half truths were portrayed. Thats the way MM is. He is like watching the new, but the opposite of what the news will show. For that fact alone I will watch it. The interesting thing is the news doesn't always show all the facts, only ones that spark the interest of the mass public and so does MM, but in a different way. Thats just my .02 cents.

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