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Old 08-18-2007, 12:47 PM   #31
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BTW Laura Bush titty-flashed Bill Buckner in Game 6 f the '86 World Series. That'* why he missed that grounder.



Thats funny right there, I don't care who you are
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Old 08-18-2007, 03:38 PM   #32
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As for WTC building 7....something like 1/4 of the structural support of the bottom 3 floors was destroyed by the debris of the towers, literally ripped away. Some of the rest was still there, but compromised by debris impact, I.E. bent, twisted, or dented. About 1/3 of the weight bearing structure was not working, and all the structural load was still there. And that was being actively dis-tempered by fire.

Put it this way: Literally thousands of structural engineers have looked at all the data, pictures, and the actual debris. They have MILLIONS of hours of actual working experience with how steel, concrete, and other building materials behave under stress, in impacts, and in fires. But the conspiracy theorists have.....well, none of them seem to be structural engineers. Or have ever built a steel structure. Or worked with aircraft. Or pretty much anything that involves anything that they claim to know more about than the people who actually DO that stuff.
You're mistaken there. A LOT of the people involved in the conspiracy theory are either 20-year pilots with commercial airlines, those in the military, engineers, etc. This is why there IS a conspiracy theory, because these experts have noticed things that DON'T add up.

The damage and fire in WTC 7 was minor, and Larry Silverstein gave the ok to "pull" the building down. A 1/4 of any support weakened in one corner would not bring a building straight down like WTC 7 fell. A couple smaller buildings (buildings 5 and 6 IIRC - not sure of the numbers) were still standing after the towers basically fell on top of them.
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Old 08-18-2007, 05:14 PM   #33
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The unexplained collapse of 7WTC is the only event that I can tie the WTC attacks to any conspiracy. Even with debris falling on this building (as debris fell on SO many building) it shouldnt collapse. For the record, I am unaware of the structural framing system of 7WTC, but I would say confidently that fire alone, combined with debris shouldn't cause this building to fall. If that was the reason, I fear for the quality of construction and the education level of your architects and engineers in the United States.

Furthermore...if7WTC fell due to debris, then the World Financial Center on the West St Hwy across the street would have also fallen and the Verizon building. The US Postal Office building suffered moderate damage, including damage to its facade, broken windows, and major water damage. ]The glass wintergarden at WFC was damaged, repaired and reopened on Sept 11, 2002. My co-workers were there on the day it reopened.



7WTC fell into a nice little pile, in a fashion that mimics controlled demolition (ie the structure was weakened to the point of complete collapse.)

Oh btw, the new 7WTC, which I have been to, is fantastic.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...Wtc7_jan06.jpg

Bit of step up...wouldn't you agree? But for all intents and purposes 7 WTC should not have fallen to the ground. Period.
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Also the most of the steel from the towers was shipped to china almost immediately to be recycled before it was put into the hands of people that could inspect it.
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If anyone believes building 7 came down by fire or other damage they are mistaken. Not to say that I believe the entire conspiracy because of one building. But since WTC 7 was brought down intentionally, it will obviously make people question how WTC 1 and 2 collapsed in the same way.

This video explains everything up very clearly. And should leave no doubt that WTC 7 was a controlled demolition. It shows how BBC knew about it before it actually happened.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58h0LjdMry0&NR=1
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Bahahah! The text on the screen at 2:42 reads 7 fell, and it'* still standing in the background!

I've never ever seen that footage before
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It seems very fishy to me.

I forget where the video is, but something stated that documents regarding major scams like Enron and something else (forget what) were destroyed since they were in building 7. I'd have to find the video again to give those facts a place in the story. That could just be a coincidence.

Not to mention Silverstein got $7 billion after the WTC buildings were destroyed. He was the new leaseholder weeks before 9/11, and put terrorist attacks on his insurance weeks before it happened. The fire-proofing asbestos had to be removed from the towers which would have cost $1 billion. Weeks later they went down.

It all does seem fishy and it sure makes me stop and open my mind a little.
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Yea, it was the house of several SEC investigations. All gone now.
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I beleive that real coincidents rarely happen.
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its saddening to me that so many people here take this obvious BS so seriously.

baby jesus is crying.

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Second-worst conspiracy theory EVER.
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