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Old 08-21-2007, 10:44 AM   #31
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I will do this I take pics of my fogs on now from a point in driveway, then install these and take same pics... I got these because these look bad *** to me. I do want overall light to be improved also. I can complete this tonite and post pics. I understand members looking out for me that is why I like it here.
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Mike, it won't be hard to beat the brightness of the stock fogs. And those 'daisies' may do that at short distances, but I think the stock fogs may still provide better light concentration at longer distances.

Go get the cyberwhites. With or without the angel eye rings. The reflector design captures the light that would normally be cast in front of the car or too high up, and reflects it back down to the road.

They are VERY affordable at Wal-Mart, and have high-quality tempered glass lenses on them. I have them on both cars, and actually run 100W H3'* in them on the Zilla with no issues. Still running 55W in them on the SLEeper.

The proof in the reflector design is that they light up the road to the sides better than my low beams, and 'fill the gap' between the car and the high beams VERY well (with the override wired of course). However, oncoming cars don't flash their brights at me. That'* an indication that they are casting the light on the road where you need it.

Reflector design, lens material, total wattage, and light color are all factors in selecting the light. Aiming is then the most important thing. You should check their aim at 2 or 3 different distances after installing them.

Cameras cannot accurately show brightness or total light output. You need a light meter to do that, or rely on the fact that the light is focused WHERE you need it.
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Remembering back.. to the ones I got. Skip them if they have the blue bulb on the bottom. Reflection wasn't good and it seems that Cyberwhite didn't get their "gadgets" working well before releasing them. I'd stick to the base cybers or the Hella optilux personally.

The plus side of the Hella'* is they use the stock bracket 100% and are easier to install and aim.
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