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Old 02-01-2004, 02:30 PM   #51
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GM does have the 3.9 coming out, well have to see what that has on it. I bet the Bonnie will die before the 3800. Its being used in so many GM cars. Its been proven to be a reliable, powerful and long lasting engine.
Kill the Bonney? I hope not, but wonderful cars and divisions have been killed lately over making more production for those wonderful SUV'* that the masses seem to crave. Don't get me wrong..I like SUV'*, my folks have a Blazer that was the ONLY vehicle that could get out in a freak 22" snowfall last year, but they shouldnt force them upon everyone. I wonder how many people, me included are going to miss the F-body and Oldsmobile.
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One last thing... Imagine what this country would be like without the police, EPA, DEA, or other enforcement authority.

Try visiting a third world country where you have no rights, and the country is ruled regionally by war lords who use intimidation and brutality to get you to do what they want.

If someone steals your car, or your kid for that matter, what would you do? Ah yes, you probably wouldn't be able to afford any sort of car there. Crime would be a way of life, and up to you to avoid on a regular basis.
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Old 02-01-2004, 04:10 PM   #53
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One last thing... Imagine what this country would be like without the police, EPA, DEA, or other enforcement authority.

Try visiting a third world country where you have no rights, and the country is ruled regionally by war lords who use intimidation and brutality to get you to do what they want.

If someone steals your car, or your kid for that matter, what would you do? Ah yes, you probably wouldn't be able to afford any sort of car there. Crime would be a way of life, and up to you to avoid on a regular basis.
I couldn't have said it better. Well said.
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Old 02-01-2004, 04:29 PM   #54
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GM does have the 3.9 coming out, well have to see what that has on it. I bet the Bonnie will die before the 3800. Its being used in so many GM cars. Its been proven to be a reliable, powerful and long lasting engine.
Kill the Bonney? I hope not, but wonderful cars and divisions have been killed lately over making more production for those wonderful SUV'* that the masses seem to crave. Don't get me wrong..I like SUV'*, my folks have a Blazer that was the ONLY vehicle that could get out in a freak 22" snowfall last year, but they shouldnt force them upon everyone. I wonder how many people, me included are going to miss the F-body and Oldsmobile.
The car has lost its power in the past few years.

Everyone seems to drive SUV'*, vans, and trucks. Take a look on the road. A car is a rarity.
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Yes, I think people are too caught up in the SUV as a status symbol or a domination tool over smaller vehicles.
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Yes, I think people are too caught up in the SUV as a status symbol or a domination tool over smaller vehicles.
I agree completely with that statement. I'm sick of Suburbans and Expeditions and all those other ungodly sized vehicles on the road. Those monstrosities are impossible to see around, can't fit in any type of parking spot, and always seem to tailgate anything smaller than a *-10.

Die soccer mom, die!
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And the people that buy those don't know how to drive them. That'* why you hear so many cases of them flipping over. It'* not an engineering defect, it'* the driver.
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And the people that buy those don't know how to drive them. That'* why you hear so many cases of them flipping over. It'* not an engineering defect, it'* the driver.
Yes and no. I mean, honestly, people do need to know how to drive and that you can take corners like you can in a car and it'* not an engineering defect either...it'* just simple physics. They'll roll more just because they are higher off the ground and have that higher center of gravity.
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And the people that buy those don't know how to drive them. That'* why you hear so many cases of them flipping over. It'* not an engineering defect, it'* the driver.
Yes and no. I mean, honestly, people do need to know how to drive and that you can take corners like you can in a car and it'* not an engineering defect either...it'* just simple physics. They'll roll more just because they are higher off the ground and have that higher center of gravity.
Yes but the driver isn't compensating for that height difference. I've never even come close to that in our yukon.
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One last thing... Imagine what this country would be like without the police, EPA, DEA, or other enforcement authority.

Try visiting a third world country where you have no rights, and the country is ruled regionally by war lords who use intimidation and brutality to get you to do what they want.

If someone steals your car, or your kid for that matter, what would you do? Ah yes, you probably wouldn't be able to afford any sort of car there. Crime would be a way of life, and up to you to avoid on a regular basis.
Well if you are bringing up laws, then think about this. With freedom of speech we are allowed the right to question or make fun of the highest ranking officer of the nation (President) without reprisal (unless your threatening him/her). I'm not saying that what SuperchargedSSEi said was right i'm saying his right to say it was right. Not trying to start any kind of war here and if you want to discuss this in PM or the lounge thats fine just don't be so quick to judge others who are exercising their rights. Making fun of cops while not socially accepted is legally accepted. Just my 2 cents....

Back to your topic at hand...
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