just a few things.

1. The only thing about cops that bug me is the majority of cops who go out on cruise night for patrol know nothing about cars in general (especially traffic cops. If you are going to deal with violators on a daily basis you should know whats what on a car). I seen people blatantly lie to cops about something that is illegal saying its not and the cop believes him. For example I was out on cruise night and this guy got pulled over by a cop. The cop saw a bottle of Nos in the back (illegal in Manitoba) and asked what it was. The guy made up some bullshit answer that didnt make any sense and the cop bought it. If only they studied a bit they could stop a lot more of the idiots.

2.SUV'* are the stupidest and most useless thing ever created (By suv'* I mean like escalades stuff like that, the new ones. I realize old yukons etc. are actually work tpe vehicles) They are simply a trend which people think they are cool when they buy them. If you admit that you are buying one simply for the looks then all the power to you for being honest, I just dont buy any of their bs reasons for owning one.
a) They are roomy and I need a lot of room to take the kids to practice
-BUY A VAN. they hold many more( and generally most SUV'* dont have a lot of storage space)
b) I need to tow stuff around
-you dont need an SUV for that my dads Camry does it just fine and so do many other cars
c) I feel safer.
You may feel safer but your vehicle is so damn high that it decapitates the person driving the civic or other small vehicles. TOO MANY DEATHS IN ACCIDENTS ARE BECAUSE SOMEONE WAS HIT BY AN SUV.

And my biggest complaint is the yuppies who buy the BMW, Mercedes etc SUVs . It jsut proves my point that it is a trend where people who buy them think they are cool, yes SUV'* are meant to go off roading but Im sure if you ever took one of the expensive ones off roading the owner would cry. Half of them never touch anything besides pavement.


Just my ranting .02 (whoops almost tripped there getting off my soapbox )

Towing in a camry is a bad idea. Just like a bonneville. It'* a FWD, uni body car. No frame, no RWD. The entire body is being stressed. For a small fishing boat you can be ok, but anything else and you need a truck. We have a GMC Yukon 1998 SLT version, and it'* great. We don't use it for everything, and personally i'd rather be in my car in a road trip, front or backseat, but we use it offroad, moving large items, going skiing, etc. It'* nice to have a vehicle with 4wd on bad days like today.

Now i'm not advocating every mom drive an SUV, they shouldn't, but they do have their place if used for what they have.

This is off of the notices forum:

When I read this, I knew I wanted to be a part of a communty that respected the law enforcement profession despite being a group of stereotypical car lovers who like to drive fast when ever the oppertunity arrises. I don't want to be nasty about this, but just remember there are some out there (like said before) who have ties to the law enforcement community and would like some repect shown. Thanks.
But, again, I've digressed off topic so carry on with friendly banter about SUV...

OK...

We have all said our piece about law enforcement....enough now please

Lets get back to thread topic...however the evolution into SUV'* has been interesting

Since we're sorta on a debate about our rights versus showing respect, I wont go off on my rant about how ridiculous SUVs are unless you live on a 6th-class road or something...but I sometimes wonder if people should have to have a special license to drive them ...like a CDL ....they're so huge and most of the people who drive them don't seem to have enough of an idea of their parameters ....

Good point. I see a lot taking up two spots. And even if there is room to park next to one, I don't wanna park there. Who knows how the driver is going to back out if they are inexperienced.

Its one thing to drive a jimmy or a blazer or even an ugh explorer they are not bad. Its crap like expeditions and Escalades that really scare me. I would like to see evidence why ANYBODY would ever need that big of a vehicle.

nice pic. sorry for off-topic.

Thank you, it was from a recent trip to Fargo, that pic was taken after about 5 appletons and cokes

haahaa...love the picture!!!!