225,000 miles on my parents Grand Marquis. Its been through everything, it was the car i learned to drive in. Beet the hell out of it! The engine and trans still runs like new, however, not as quik as my series 1 3800 Olds.

I think the 3800 may die when the w body platform chevy'* mentioned above get killed. I don't want it to, but that'* the only thing keeping it up now, the w bodies.

Just again, we are

We aren't here to scold others, believe whatever you want, but the owners, and administration of this site run it the way they want to, and for everybody. We can't start a fire if you don't set it up for us.

Ok ok...everyone just be cool and lets not derail this thing to badly.

With the debut of the 3800 Series III, I doubt GM has any plans to kill it any time soon. It goes into too many cars.

Dont forget the LeSabre, Bonnie, and Park Avanue (and whatever else is a C body) the 3800 comes in alot of GMs cars either in N/A form or Super Charged form. The Grand Prix got the series 3 wile every thing else got the series 2... I think thats saying somthing about the future of the engine overal.

Its simply a good engine.. Cheap to make, but it can last freakin forever. And it gets fairly decent miles per gallon. The firebird and camaro even had it in the V6 models for a wile...

This is probably a dumb question, but since aluminum multivalve engines are so popular these days for performance; does anyone think it would be posible that GM might make a multivalve version of the 3800 series?

You mean a multivalve V6 comparable to the 3800?

I'd say Jimbo'* engine is the 3800'* bigger sister.

Yep. Obviously it would be a totally different engine but just the same size. Typically a multivalve V6 is between 2.8 and 3.5 litres in size. Why is it that almost all multivalve engines are small for the number of cilinders?

With more valves, they can get more gas and air in, and control it better. They don't need as much displacement as a simlarly equipped SOHV engine, and then can be marginally lighter etc. But they don't have the torque most of the time...

GM does have the 3.9 coming out, well have to see what that has on it. I bet the Bonnie will die before the 3800. Its being used in so many GM cars. Its been proven to be a reliable, powerful and long lasting engine.