but that is great for people like myself, that drive nearly 20k miles a year, the 36000mi warranty to me is garbage, and most people these days are driving nearly 15,000 or more a year, and paying for their cars for 5 yrs. It makes sense to me

I think if GM didn't discontinue the 3800 NA, they'd *EAT IT* on intake manifolds, with this warranty plan.

I put ~25K average on my Bonnie! 100K mile warrenty would be great!

It'* got an aluminum upper now, so it wouldn't be a problem.

That'* true on the Series 3. I test drove a couple cars with the Series 3, both had the aluminum upper and maybe improved LIM gaskets?

huh, i just saw this commercial for the first time

But yeah its only 5 years, but still thats alot better than what it is!

yeah but with this new 3900...i wonder how reliable it really is...there is no way anyone in the world has gotten it past 200k yet. I know its been out for a couple years but eh.

And have they actually discontinued the S2 3800? because you can still buy a BRAND SPANKIN new crate L67 S2 from Goodwrench. So are they still makin em, or just sellin off their stock?

OOPS...didn't notice this was a couple weeks old...

You can buy plenty of engines new from GM that are dicontinued. The 3.5 in my Aurora hasn't been built since 2002 but you can still buy it new from GM. The 3800 isn't completely discontinued yet, but hopefully it will be soon. Only a handful of cars have the 3800 now, most are moving to the more powerful 3900.

The problem with this, is it doesn't make the cars better directly. They need to be somewhat more reliable then the norm to last 100k, but then again cars are only sticking around longer and longer due to advances in design and production. My dad doesnt' think i could stick it out till 200k in my car (@ 140k currently).

The 3900 is based off the 60 degree platform, which has gotten much better in recent years in reliability. Frankly any modern car is pretty dam reliable in most people'* terms, engine and transmission wise. Big problems come with impimenting new features, and wiring IMO.

Yup, electronics are now the common fault of reliability in cars. Not the powertrain. Like my company'* work truck. 2003 GMC w/ 115K and no engine/ trans problems but electrical problems galore.

I'm just sick of people who claim "if you want reliability you have to get a Honda or Toyota." That'* plain ignorance. There'* a guy at my work who said this last week. And nothing could be further from the truth. GMs are just as reliable, and this warranty plan sounds good, though this is the first time I've heard of it.

A lot of people drive 15,000-20,000 miles a year. The national avg. is going up. So a 20K/yr. warranty does make sense for a lot of people. I have an 11-year 100,000 mile warranty on my Chrysler but it'* useless for me being 11-years because I've put 23,000 miles on it in less than a year. I was offered a 36,000 mile warranty but it would have ended for me in 6 months.