I remember reading something on ClubGP. They had a link to a story in Car And Driver or some publication like that and apparently the 04 Max destroyed the 04 GP. So some big shot at GM (Bob something...I don't recall his name) invited AJAC (Automobile Journalist Association of Canada) out to a Test Run day of the GP and Max, apparently the tests and times were much closer.

Anyone recall that story??

Bob Lutz - Vice President of GM

Jim Kenzie was unimpressed by the brake fade during a panic stop the first time he and a colleague drove the 2004 GTP. However, GM could not recreate the problem that Kenzie had complainted about and were perplexed.

Bob Lutz invited Kenzie to GM'* Proving grounds and told him he could bring any car he wanted (within a reasonable price range) to go head to head with the 2004 GTP. Kenzie chose the 2004 Maxima and the GTP spanked the Maxima in every performance category (acceleration, skidpad, braking, etc.) except for interior build quality.

Good memory 89, I just thought I would give everyone a summary of the story.

Bob Lutz :? thats who it was...thanks Galaxy...thats the story...good job

Hate to say it but I'd take an 04 GP over a 04 Maxima. Granted they're both down right UGLY! The two previous styled Maximas had style and class, now it looks like it was raped by a gay Altima.

Ouch to Nissan

im wit ya on that 1

The Altima with the same 3.5 L engine will post a 0-60 in 5.9 sec and the 1/4 in 14.6 sec.

It'* all related to simple physics. Hp to weight ratio, torque and rear ratio'*.

Hmmm. Funny though. Both the Nissan and the GTP weight about the same, the GTP has more hp but the acceleration numbers are quoted to be higher for the Nissan.

For the 2002 Nissan Altima SE (5-spd) Motortrend says 6.28 / 14.72 @ 96.82 mph. This seems pretty consistent with my other findings. If you run a search, almost every other time you will come across is between 6.2 and 6.3 seconds for 0-60 and around 14.7 for the 1/4 mile.

Actually, the GTP is the underdog when it comes to horsepower. For both the 2003 and 2004 model years, a Maxima has more horsepower than a GTP. The GTP has more torque than the Maxima does. Perhaps you are thinking of torque?

FYI, I will repost the chart I posted before. Here it is:

2003 GTP = 240 hp & 280 lb-ft. of tq.

2004 GTP = 260 hp & 280 lb-ft. of tq.

2003 Maxima = 255 hp& 246 lb-ft. of tq.

2004 Maxima = 265 hp & 255 lb-ft. of tq.

So I guess what we are saying is that TORQUE is King.

..........and so is Pontiac !!!

This is true! I found a pontiac/mn wild/ fox sports head band i'll bring to the meet!