Umm. There are more 00+ in the top 10

what can I say.... He speaks the truth.

Simply because those that can afford to modify extensively can afford the newer cars.

Mod for Mod, a 97-99 will be quicker than a 2000-2003, and it won't have intermediate shaft problems or bad rear window regulators.

Mine doesn't

Agreed. There'* a definite difference in feeling when you get in an 00+. Just feels cheaper

Besides, the 92-99s are way better looking.

um no.


In my opinion the 2000+ own the previous gens.


as far as price goes as mentioned a car like that wil go from 6,000 to 11,000 depending on the area and if its from a dealer or private party.

As far as looks go, I like 88-91 SSE, then 92-95 SSEi, then 96-99 SSEi, then the 2000+. I think the 2000+ gen falls under the "all Pontiacs look the same" problem. There are not enough unique features to it that truly define it from the other pontiacs.

As far as getting an SSEi goes, the fuel economy is the same...that is if you can control yourself.

I've only driven one 00+, and it is an SSEi, and it felt so much smaller inside than my 98.

I'm also in the camp that the 92-99s look better. Not that the 00+'* ain't nice, but.... All 00+ Pontiacs look too much alike to me. It'* almost like they resized the same mold and gave 'em different names.

this discussion is overly talked about.. of corse the 00s ahve their problems, but so do all cars....

Unfortunately, we have an over abundance of 92-99s on here, and people tend to lean towards what they drive and say its beter (its human nature to think yours is better even if its not...) In my opinion, and in my experience, my 2000 is a super reliable car.. i have put 50k miles on the car in the last 2 yrs (it now has just over 100k) and i have done virtually no repairs to the car.. just maintenence, (battery and brakes) and i have a wheel hub with a little play in it that i havent yet replaced... not bad for a car that is cheaply built huh?

As mentioned ... 00'* have issues like any other cars.

Being a gearhead here. 96+ cars with the NA motor L36 all seem to suffer from the possibility of a failed upper intake manifold. I consider this to be a major downfall of 96+ which includes the 00+'*.

Add in intermediate steering shaft issues (however..we have found fixes/bandaids)
Rear window regulators are nearly a given on most 00+'*
Water leaks in the doors (many 92-99'* are fishbowls with wheels)

I'm a firm believer that if you own a car, you can find issues with it. No car was really ever manufactured perfectly. Knowing the issues and working around them is the best suggestion I can give a person.

Toasty.. don't forget your intermdete shaft lube job