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Old 09-30-2002, 04:58 PM   #71
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[quote="TamaraI'm still sticking with the Oil Sensor idea, if it is saying check gauges and then stalling... Do you notice it leaking oil at all, Amy? Make sure you check it before you go out anywhere, because it will only run so low then it won't start at all, and it would suck to get stranded somewhere. Let me know. I'm just waiting to rub Drifter'* nose in it if it is jk[/quote]

You never know.. she was right about one of my problems and slammed my head.. I mean on my shifter **** ... I mean.. the shifter **** came out and wasn't sitting in there properly.. so it couldn't engage into park at times.. I thought there was something wrong with the tranny... good thing she slammed my shifter ****... ok... now all that sounded really perverted... it'* all Tamara'* fault.. she corrupted my mind .... I was so innocent ONCE ...... :( hee hee... kiddin
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You never know.. she was right about one of my problems and slammed my head.. I mean on my shifter **** ... I mean.. the shifter **** came out and wasn't sitting in there properly.. so it couldn't engage into park at times.. I thought there was something wrong with the tranny... good thing she slammed my shifter ****... ok... now all that sounded really perverted... it'* all Tamara'* fault.. she corrupted my mind .... I was so innocent ONCE ...... :( hee hee... kiddin

Yes, sometimes ***** can be very serious, and not stay where they are supposed to. I advice, when this happens, to give it a good sharp SMACK on the head, and push it back into place. But, depending on who it belongs to, it can be very stubburn and decide to pop back out again. It is my experience, that the more physically agressive you get (within reason, of course) the better chance you have of the **** going down, and STAYING down.

This has been a Professor Queen of Bonnevilles production.
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It'* not leaking oil at all, so I don't think that is the problem. I did reset the computer as was suggested to me. It'* still not starting correctly, but my air conditioner works great now! Now I just need to get codes. Oh, and fix the high beam problem.
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jr's3800....if it hasn't been started for 4-5 hours it hard starts. If I try to start it maybe 20 minutes or so after it'* been started and turned off, it starts right up. No problems, no complaining. Otherwise it'* a cranky monster. Oh and about the oil pressure gauge. When the car is started both the battery gauge and the oil pressure gauge spike into the red. They have done that since we got the car. My husband told me that the gauges were probably messed up, thought the wiring was getting too much voltage or something. He seemed to think it was anything to worry about. Was I stupid to listen to him? I'm starting to get that queasy feeling in the pit of my stomach.

Oh, and he'* taking the car to Autozone to get the codes read tomorrow on his way home from work, so I should have some codes for you guys tomorrow night!
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Tell the dealer "look if I don't hear what I wanna hear you won't get get what you wanna get!" That'* that!!!
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GM Techs CAN SMELL FEAR TOO BTW! Just kidding really. Most just live on fear! (fear that they won't get another paycheck that is unless they sell something).
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It should take 5 to 10 minutes, and they can do it in the parking lot. You might even be able to persuade the 'right' shop to do it for free.....with a little charm
I'm still sticking with the Oil Sensor idea, if it is saying check gauges and then stalling... Do you notice it leaking oil at all, Amy? Make sure you check it before you go out anywhere, because it will only run so low then it won't start at all, and it would suck to get stranded somewhere. Let me know. I'm just waiting to rub Drifter'* nose in it if it is jk
Yes Tamara, I have to agree, The oil pressue sending unit can and will cause a hard start syndrome... If it it starts to go bad, it will just turn over untill there is enough pressure for the switch to work... But you also want to look at fuel pressure, as the regulator might not be holding fuel pressure, so when you go to start it it takes a little to build the pressure back up...... And I hate that idiot light, Maybe it should be like the e-mails, You Have LOW OIL........ I get a false low every now a again... Ding-Ding-Ding....
But better to have a false low, than no oil at all

Amy if you read this a few questions.... Does the car have a hard start all of the time? Once its running does it run good? When you cold start you car what does the oil pressure gauge say? It should be some where between 40 and 80 psi when cold started... You could also have a cam sensor problem, and the ecm is not catching cylinder #1 top dead center.... But usually they will still start... Like someone else said it could have to do with the crank sensor, but if it runs good once started than that would most likely not be the prob... I wished I live closer so I could help you out, Sorry
If I could hook up my scantool, free ofcourse, we could find out what the codes are and get a good idea of the problem....

BTW Tamara I love your Bonneville, You have one of those strange SE'* with almost everything in it, Mines a lot like yours but a diffrent color, Burgundy with the very same alloys..... And its always awsome to have ladies talking car crapp, I love it So when will another lady join the group?
Yea, i LOVE those wheels. I only see them on '95s...and plus they were a special order option too I don't mind if no more girls join the club. It'* great like this, plus i get to play up what i DO know. lol. now..talk about a different kind of car....and i have no clue

Also, I mentioned about the oil sensor because Amy mentioned that her light keeps flashing "check gauges" not "check oil level" Which is what happened when my oil sensor went.
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Hey folks, the gauges are designed to spike. They go through a self-test routine each time you start your car. Even my boost gauge does it. Turn your ignition on without starting, and you'll see what I mean. Now, if the gauges are acting funny AFTER that, you've got a problem.
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Hey folks, the gauges are designed to spike. They go through a self-test routine each time you start your car. Even my boost gauge does it. Turn your ignition on without starting, and you'll see what I mean. Now, if the gauges are acting funny AFTER that, you've got a problem.
Hey will, when you turn the ignition on, the gauges go back and forth like twice and go into the proper range dont they.. Just wondering....
Um, well then I have a problem. I know about the going back and forth...that'* what the gas gauge does. But the oil and the battery stay pegged all the way over for about 10 to 15 minutes then they sort of creep back. Hopefully they give me something to work with at Autozone tomorrow.
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