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Old 12-21-2005, 02:01 PM   #21
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Well, they say they can remove the key while in run, so I'd guess a new ignition switch is in order to begin with. So those VATS wires are definitely suspect.
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Well, they say they can remove the key while in run, so I'd guess a new ignition switch is in order to begin with. So those VATS wires are definitely suspect.
Okay, time for a really stupid question: What is VATS???? I don't recall ever hearing that terminology.

I do know CAI & MAF so I am paying attention. lol
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VATS or PassKey is the little chip in the key, the contacts and wires in the switch that read the resistance (one of 16 possible) to determine the right key is inserted, and the module under the dash itself. (Vehicle Anti-Theft system)

Without the proper key properly READ, you will not start. This is ONE possibility on that car.

The VATS wires in the column are rather delicate. Do you have a SECURITY light on while trying to start?
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Well, they say they can remove the key while in run, so I'd guess a new ignition switch is in order to begin with. So those VATS wires are definitely suspect.
Okay, time for a really stupid question: What is VATS???? I don't recall ever hearing that terminology.

I do know CAI & MAF so I am paying attention. lol
Vehicle Anti Theft System. And the explanation is correct above
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Do you have a SECURITY light on while trying to start?
I know all the lights are on when I start it. It seems like when I shut it off and open the door the security light is flashing. I will have Jeff call the mechanic and mention those VATS wiring. Thanks for the ray of hope guys!!
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Tracy, you may want to look up the vats threads.

The light should flash upon door opening.
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I got her back today!!! And it only cost me $404.12. Turns out the problem had to do with the A/C bracket breaking, shifting, cutting wires, belt and then in turn causing a VATS problem. They charged me a whole bunch for labor and $75 for the towing. Luckily I had the money to pay for it. Jeff picked her up and drove her home. He said she glides down the highway so smoothly. I can't wait to drive her!!!!
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Glad to here everything is well again.
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I got her back today!!! And it only cost me $404.12. Turns out the problem had to do with the A/C bracket breaking, shifting, cutting wires, belt and then in turn causing a VATS problem. They charged me a whole bunch for labor and $75 for the towing. Luckily I had the money to pay for it. Jeff picked her up and drove her home. He said she glides down the highway so smoothly. I can't wait to drive her!!!!
What she means to say is that the a/c bracket broke, causing the unit to shift a little, but just enough to move the belt over to the wires*there used to be a shield there but it was missing at the time* and the belt went through the wiring harness. when that happened it shorted out the computer and when me and my granddad changed the computer, which we have done several times before, this time unfortunately, it triggered the anti theft system disabling the car, so it was a domino reaction pretty much that is now fixed and also it fixed a couple of other issues as well, go figure but it is all good now and she is back
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She is back to the f***ing shop!! She broke down on me this morning doing the same thing she did before. She was running FINE and then she just stalled. I know she has spark and fuel (my dad checked that)

I am so pissed off it isn't even funny!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I asked my dad to talk to the mechanic because I might just cuss him out if not. He is a good mechanic with a great reputation but he had the car for over 2 weeks and STILL didn't get it fixed right. WTF
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