94 SSE has spark and fuel but will not start, please help
12-16-2005, 12:07 PM
#12
Junior Member
Posts like a Ricer Type-R
Re: start
Originally Posted by SSEBONNE4EVA
If you have no injector pulse but have spark, the crank sensor is working. The ICM or PCM may be at fault or could have a bad connector.
12-16-2005, 12:17 PM
#13
Guest
Posts: n/a
The problem can still be in the crank sensor or ICM
There are 2 parts to the crank sensor, and if eithr one of them fails the car will be left with a no start condition...
One part of the crank sensor is for spark and the other is for the fuel pulse circuit... And the cam sensor is for a Cylinder #1 reference pluse so that the PCM will be able to run in true Sequintial Fuel Injection mode... Without that pulse, the car will start in run but will never enter SFI mode, and at times will run crappy...
I feel that it could possibly be the Crank sensor or the ICM...
Let us know what the problem was and what the fix is...
Remember, we all learn from these problems..
__________________
Best Car Insurance | Auto Protection Today | FREE Trade-In Quote
There are 2 parts to the crank sensor, and if eithr one of them fails the car will be left with a no start condition...
One part of the crank sensor is for spark and the other is for the fuel pulse circuit... And the cam sensor is for a Cylinder #1 reference pluse so that the PCM will be able to run in true Sequintial Fuel Injection mode... Without that pulse, the car will start in run but will never enter SFI mode, and at times will run crappy...
I feel that it could possibly be the Crank sensor or the ICM...
Let us know what the problem was and what the fix is...
Remember, we all learn from these problems..
__________________
Best Car Insurance | Auto Protection Today | FREE Trade-In Quote
12-16-2005, 12:44 PM
#14
Senior Member
True Car Nut
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Right in front of you
Posts: 7,965
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Jeff talked to the shop and they sent a guy out to the junkyard to pick up some wiring harness' as they think this may be the cause. I will let you know something later today
12-16-2005, 06:07 PM
#15
Senior Member
True Car Nut
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Right in front of you
Posts: 7,965
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
NO GO on the wiring harness. the mechanic says it doesn't look good= translation- I better bend over and not expect a kiss afterwards.
I am so f'ing frustrated y'all can't even imagine!!!!
I am so f'ing frustrated y'all can't even imagine!!!!
12-21-2005, 10:08 AM
#16
Senior Member
True Car Nut
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Right in front of you
Posts: 7,965
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
The car is STILL in the shop. The mechanics have NO idea but think it has something to do wth the theft deterrent. These mechanics are very good and are good to deal with BUT I am losing my mind cuz I want my car back.
The saga continues...
The saga continues...
12-21-2005, 10:30 AM
#17
Guest
Posts: n/a
Did they by chance find any codes stored in the computer? Possible a theft deterent code?
Are they by chance getting any pulse from the PCM to the injectors?
I'm almost at a loss here..
__________________
Best Car Insurance | Auto Protection Today | FREE Trade-In Quote
Are they by chance getting any pulse from the PCM to the injectors?
I'm almost at a loss here..
__________________
Best Car Insurance | Auto Protection Today | FREE Trade-In Quote
12-21-2005, 11:39 AM
#19
Senior Member
True Car Nut
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Right in front of you
Posts: 7,965
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Originally Posted by jr's3800
Did they by chance find any codes stored in the computer? Possible a theft deterent code?
Are they by chance getting any pulse from the PCM to the injectors?
I'm almost at a loss here..
Are they by chance getting any pulse from the PCM to the injectors?
I'm almost at a loss here..
12-21-2005, 11:58 AM
#20
Guest
Posts: n/a
Not sure what the problem is...
The QDM#1 fault will not keep the car from running, but it will turn on the SES light...
The Theft Deterent system detects the key or resistance in the chip when you go to start the car, if it detects the proper current, it will turn on the fuel enable circuit, once the car is running the theft deterent system can fail, but the car will continue to run untill you shut it off... At which point it will not restart...
I still agree that they need to check and see if they are getting a fuel pulse at the injectors.
Another thought that just hit me...
Guys help me out here...
Haven't we seen the little wires in the steering collum break before?
And isn't there a bypass for the VATS?
__________________
Best Car Insurance | Auto Protection Today | FREE Trade-In Quote
The QDM#1 fault will not keep the car from running, but it will turn on the SES light...
The Theft Deterent system detects the key or resistance in the chip when you go to start the car, if it detects the proper current, it will turn on the fuel enable circuit, once the car is running the theft deterent system can fail, but the car will continue to run untill you shut it off... At which point it will not restart...
I still agree that they need to check and see if they are getting a fuel pulse at the injectors.
Another thought that just hit me...
Guys help me out here...
Haven't we seen the little wires in the steering collum break before?
And isn't there a bypass for the VATS?
__________________
Best Car Insurance | Auto Protection Today | FREE Trade-In Quote