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Old 04-26-2010, 03:31 PM   #1
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Default Tog headers on 95 se

I just welded up my exhaust last nite. I'll put up pics soon but I want to go with headers now since I'm doing the top swap this summer. I was think tog headers but was curious what you had to modify to make fit on a 1995. Any help? Thanks!
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Search out Oldsman105 and look for his Pacesetter headers. It'll give you about the best info of what you'd run into. Both PS and TOGs have the same type of connections right at where your transmission plug is located. It got pretty ugly and cost him a transmission.

Keep in mind that headers won't fit unless you are a 95 SE.
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I know 95nasta installed these on his with little issue. I think he had to trim the front mount.
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so they will fit my 95 se? and Bill sorry once again but you live in Pittsburgh? and also i need to get in touch with you again about the parts for the top swap. This summer I will have all the time in the world and im ready to do it....and will 01 - 03 grandprix gtp headers fit the bolt pattern?
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Not wanting to change the subject :\ but i want headers too. The SSACs look nice and are cheap what difference are the togs to the SSAC and where in the hell other than zzp and 3800 performance can i buy TOGS for my top swapped 2000 sle? (i dont like zzp and 3800performance much)
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They no longer make TOGs, so used is the only way.
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I'm in CT, have a buddy in the Pittsburgh area though.

Sounds like you do have an SE and Oldsman confirmed that Togs are different than PaceSetters, which quells that fear.

SSAC'* are low cost SLP knock offs. If you check Ebay SpeedDaddy is selling SSAC/SLP knock offs for $188. All you need is to buy a couple clamps and you essentially have SLP'*. Which in my opinion are the best headers for install and not leaking.

Togs are no longer sold as they are out of business. The best bet to find them is to search the various 3800 forums.
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yeah i saw those on ebay, they have them for the regal and grandpprix gtp.. so these would work then?
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sorry...yes, all headers were originally made for the GP. They fit Regal, Monte Carlo, Bonneville, Park Ave etc. Only thing is you'll need a W body transmission dipstick tube for no clearance issues (except TOGS, they require further tube bending).
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why do all the ones on ebay for supercharged engines, there shouldnt be a difference..?
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