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only shifting i like doing is in a dual gate or with lightning rods. when i had my caprice 9c1 (automatic) it made it all the way around the odometer and stopped at 13,500 give or take 100. i never seen any manual that can do it. im sry but maybe its just the old man in me even though im only 27. i hate everything about them.
my buddy has 230k on his in his paseo
and my other freind has 195k on his in his cavy
guy on another forum has had 2 gp'* that made it to 250k ok
all on 5 speeds
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Over here stick shift is normal for most cars, automatic is normally standard only on upscale models.
I prefer automatic but I'm aware that it hurts performance and economy on otherwise identical models.
Inidentally the BMC 1100 (Austin America) offered a 4 speed automatic option in the '60s, it wasn't a success as the buying public didn't trust automatics, rightly so in that case as the transmission shared its lubrication with the engine - that'* right it used 20w50 oil! - and they wouldnt last much more than 50000 miles.
I prefer automatic but I'm aware that it hurts performance and economy on otherwise identical models.
Inidentally the BMC 1100 (Austin America) offered a 4 speed automatic option in the '60s, it wasn't a success as the buying public didn't trust automatics, rightly so in that case as the transmission shared its lubrication with the engine - that'* right it used 20w50 oil! - and they wouldnt last much more than 50000 miles.
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man trans are better for just about everything a car enthusiast likes to do, and not having to wait for the computer to figure out whats going on.
and chicks who are into cars are way better, my wife was driving a 80'* monte with dual exhaust and an edelbrock top end while we were in high school. i think you have a better relationship if she atleast knows why your always out in the garage.
and chicks who are into cars are way better, my wife was driving a 80'* monte with dual exhaust and an edelbrock top end while we were in high school. i think you have a better relationship if she atleast knows why your always out in the garage.
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I love George Carlin, but he didn't realize that automatics were initially marketed to women. Cadillac developed their first automatics (these eventually trickled down to the other GM marques, or better yet, they were inspired by these intial designs back then) to help sell to women so they we're intimidated by the 'complexity' of manual transmissions.
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man trans are better for just about everything a car enthusiast likes to do, and not having to wait for the computer to figure out whats going on.
and chicks who are into cars are way better, my wife was driving a 80'* monte with dual exhaust and an edelbrock top end while we were in high school. i think you have a better relationship if she atleast knows why your always out in the garage.
and chicks who are into cars are way better, my wife was driving a 80'* monte with dual exhaust and an edelbrock top end while we were in high school. i think you have a better relationship if she atleast knows why your always out in the garage.
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[QUOTE=espee1989;1513214]I love George Carlin, but he didn't realize that automatics were initially marketed to women. Cadillac developed their first automatics (these eventually trickled down to the other GM marques, or better yet, they were inspired by these intial designs back then) to help sell to women so they we're intimidated by the 'complexity' of manual transmissions.[/QUOTE
towards women, im sry but i cant believe that. according to old car and driver magazines ive read, rich males were driving automatics long before any plain jane ordinary woman. as for manuals being complex i agree 100% thats why i was unsuccessful at learning because i just cant multitask. and last thing i want to do after a long day at work is shift gears.
towards women, im sry but i cant believe that. according to old car and driver magazines ive read, rich males were driving automatics long before any plain jane ordinary woman. as for manuals being complex i agree 100% thats why i was unsuccessful at learning because i just cant multitask. and last thing i want to do after a long day at work is shift gears.