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Old 09-30-2003, 11:24 AM   #201
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Hrm when and where is it? I'll see about making it there. Anyway back up to SSEI95 (or anyone else) is there anyway I can get a picture or good description of where the MAP sensor actually mounts. I might be missing some bracket that it mounts to because I can't figure it out. I got its placement in relation to the superchargers PCV plate but there is nothing currently on my engine to mount it to. appreciate the help
You still need this (or any others)? I might be able to get something to you tonight if needed. Let me know
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Old 09-30-2003, 11:59 PM   #202
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Yea I am still wondering where it mounts, I'd appreciate pics....aight so I have good news and bad news. The good news is I own a bonneville...and now the bad news... I went out to the shop at 8am and slaved over it non stop till just moments ago (8:20pm), I haven't even eaten today. All I have to do now is fill the radiator and plug in a damn cam position sensor that is a pain. Anyway so we wanted to turn it over to see if we're getting oil to the rockers. I hop in and for the first time in what seems like forever I see the car light up. Excited I put the key in the ignition and turn it to RUN. Everything turns on like it should I'm so excited at this point I can hardly contain myself. So I put it to START and.....*?*.... aiiight so I turn it off. I put it to RUN and everything is good so I move to START....*?*....nothing. Battery, its gotta be the battery. I get on the terminals with some vice grips and put them tighter than they were ever meant to be. I get in and the lights seem a little brighter. START-RUN.....*?*...WTF?!?! I do this about 30 times before giving up and checking the code through the aircontrols. Code 152 pops up. I looked it up and still can't explain what the hell it is. Something aparently on the inside of the cabin. Some High voltage circuit. I did have problems with the ignition before pulling the engine and it would do a similar thing but I never checked the codes. Usually I'd go back and forth with the key and it'll eventually start right up like nothing happened. I dunno what to say. Anyone know what the hell this code is? Its stopping me from driving the beast, I WANT IT GONE!! heh. Someone has to know what code 152 is, SPEAK UP!
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A 3-digit code on a 93 SSEi? Not possible. We're OBD1, and have only 2-digit codes. You're pulling codes from the aircontrols? You mean the climate control? You need PCM codes. Use the procedure in Techinfo for that.

Does the car turn over, but not run, or is the starter not even turning it?
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Old 10-01-2003, 07:49 AM   #204
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hrm thats strange. I looked it up and came up with one other guy in a '92 sssei that has the same 152 comming up. Someone else explained that it just means that the battery had been disconnected. But yeah nothing hapens what so ever. The dash turns off when I hold it to Start and comes back when i let off but nothing at all happens. I think its a bad ground and I have an idea on which one but I'll have to play with that tomorrow I have 24hr duty today. I'll try the techinfo if the ground doesn't work
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Yea I am still wondering where it mounts, I'd appreciate pics....aight so I have good news and bad news. The good news is I own a bonneville...and now the bad news... I went out to the shop at 8am and slaved over it non stop till just moments ago (8:20pm), I haven't even eaten today. All I have to do now is fill the radiator and plug in a damn cam position sensor that is a pain. Anyway so we wanted to turn it over to see if we're getting oil to the rockers. I hop in and for the first time in what seems like forever I see the car light up. Excited I put the key in the ignition and turn it to RUN. Everything turns on like it should I'm so excited at this point I can hardly contain myself. So I put it to START and.....*?*.... aiiight so I turn it off. I put it to RUN and everything is good so I move to START....*?*....nothing. Battery, its gotta be the battery. I get on the terminals with some vice grips and put them tighter than they were ever meant to be. I get in and the lights seem a little brighter. START-RUN.....*?*...WTF?!?! I do this about 30 times before giving up and checking the code through the aircontrols. Code 152 pops up. I looked it up and still can't explain what the hell it is. Something aparently on the inside of the cabin. Some High voltage circuit. I did have problems with the ignition before pulling the engine and it would do a similar thing but I never checked the codes. Usually I'd go back and forth with the key and it'll eventually start right up like nothing happened. I dunno what to say. Anyone know what the hell this code is? Its stopping me from driving the beast, I WANT IT GONE!! heh. Someone has to know what code 152 is, SPEAK UP!
Oh, sheesh!! I'd have to be tied down so I don't pull my hair out/put a hole in the wall/throw something...
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Yea I am still wondering where it mounts, I'd appreciate pics....
I can get more pics tomorrow night. I won't be home long enough until then to get some pics. And what area in particular are you looking for again?
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I'm looking for where the MAP sensor mounts to the engine itself. I have the actual sensor itself mounted to some kind of a bracket like its supposed to and it has a hole in the bottom for a stud or a bolt of some kind but its not attached to the engine in any way, it just sits there right now. I'm 2 steps away from putting glue on it and "mounting" it somewhere, heh. But yeah an illustration of some kind of the piece that actually mounts to the engine would be great. I'm heading back out there right now to try and get this thing started. I think I figured it out. I remember checking the codes after unplugging the battery and letting it sit and it would say 00 with the ignition on. After trying to start it it would come up 152. I found someone with a '92 that posted a message with the same problem and someone gave a confident answer that it was just saying that the power was turned off and it logged that in the history. So, power is on until I try to start it. Its a friggin ground somewhere and I think I got the culprit and if it is then I was a moron...well I'm a moron for doing it without thinking anyway. There is a ground that is attached to the battery terminal itself. I have this mounted to a stud that is holding the bracket for the coil packs to the head/block. Seems rational cause its right there but the problem is THE BLOCK/HEADS HAVE SEVERAL COATS OF PAINT ON THEM! hahha. I thought back to one day when the exact same thing happened and I thought the starter was fried. I even had it towed to the shop to get a new one put in but just before it went into the bay I played with the ground cable and discovered it was loose. Tightened it up and wham, started right up. So anyway I'm gonna go shave the paint off that side of the head and see if that'll help at least get some clicks from the starter. If today fails I'm towing it to the dealership and letting them deal with it.
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Ummmm...Doc, that 152 is a diagnostic code from your CLIMATE CONTROL for keepalive memory lost. You were disconnected too long. No big deal. Use the procedure Fuddy wrote in Techinfo to clear it.

You need the 87-93 ECM code retreival procedure for PCM codes.
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How are you getting codes with NO POWER!?!?! j/k listen to wren he is our god.
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Yea I figured that and like I mentioned in the post above I had my eye on a ground. So when I got there today I went straight for it. I pulled the coil pack mount off and used a small piece of sand paper to sand all the paint off where it mounts then I used a small block to smooth it out. I hooked everything back up, pulled the spark plugs and got in the car. START-RUN *CLICK!*...hmm. Tightened the battery and starter terminals and got in again START_RUN *CLICK!*. SOB! So I start looking around at things and realize the starter only uses one power wire. So I say hmm...obviously it uses its frame for a ground. So I pull the starter and look at where its mounted, painted. I do the same thing there and take my time getting it nice and smooth then reinstall the starter and hook everything back up. Get in the car START-RUN *VRRRVRRRVRRRVRRRVRR* HELL YEA IT WORKS! hehe. Don't get too excited its not RUNNING yet but its got all the potential to fire right up. I even checked the fuel rail and its pressurised and full of fuel but I had other things that needed done. I had to hook the cv axles up which was sort of a bitch and required pulling almost everything off to get a good angle at it, even pulled the brake line off. I had to do that on both sides so that took a while. Then I rerouted the cam position sensor wires and soldered them and covered the wires with <EDIT>(I'm tired) heat shrink. That should work fine. I had 24hour duty from 6am yesterday to 6am today and its almost 8 now and I haven't slept so I called it a day. But not before putting all the plugs in and setting all the wires up. Tomorrow I have to spend like 10min hooking up the rear exhaust connections and finish filling up the radiator then *hopefully* zoom zoom. We have to bleed like every damn thing though...well the power steering and brakes but still. It might take me till saturday to get back out there which sucks but I'm doin my best.
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