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Old 09-02-2007, 10:21 AM   #21
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right, but the JMB has proven to cause KR....and with the amount of engine flex (even with the solid hockey puck mount) i would NOT want a soild intake, even the 2 piece one, on my car
i have stock motor mounts and the 2-piece JMB FWI and have had no problems. i dont understand how a smooth tubular intake that is powdercoated and stays cool can cause massive KR vs. a bumby strechy tube. the JMB should flow a lot smoother then the bumpy rubber from the intense. what is the reasoning behind the JMB causing "massive KR"??? doesnt make sense how intakes soo similar have such different gains. and the smoother, cooler one is worse.
have you actually driven the car with a scanner, and watched for KR??

and have actually driven the car with a scanner to watch the IAT Temps??

furthermore, the powercoating does reallly has no profound effect on "how cool" the pipe stays, and it prolly retains the heat after heat soaked (again you need to watch IAT Temps)

also the Intense Tubing is NOT bumpy on the inside, its actually quite smooth....
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since we have only had 1 car have negative results with the JMB, I don't think we can conclude anything. If slickbonny says he is having no problems with it, I believe him. However, I still think the INTENSE FWI is a better intake since it CAN'T hold any heat. I do agree that the JMB looks nicer.
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no i havent scanned the car at all. i dont have a scanner. i dont see how any type of cold air intake could cause massive KR or any KR. the car only feels better to me since i've put it on. its my most recent add on and it compliments my other mods. after a drive the tubing is quite cool, cooler on the inside cuz the outter powdercoating acts as a slight heat shield. this debate just depends on the drivers preference. some will like one over the other but there is no arguement when it comes to one being better then the other that i see. they are very similar. just made out of different material.
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INTENSE FWI is a better intake since it CAN'T hold any heat.
please explain how a black rubbery tube does not hold any heat ?

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INTENSE FWI is a better intake since it CAN'T hold any heat.
please explain how a black rubbery tube does not hold any heat ?

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you can put your hand on a heatsoaked rubbery tube after an hour drive, I dare you to try that on the JMB intake, even though its "powdercoated"
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i can.
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If they had come up with a multilayered water intercooled pipe I'd be in. Heck even if it had 1/2" of really good insulation all the way around I'd get rid of my INTENSE FWI for it.
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INTENSE FWI is a better intake since it CAN'T hold any heat.
please explain how a black rubbery tube does not hold any heat ?

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you can put your hand on a heatsoaked rubbery tube after an hour drive, I dare you to try that on the JMB intake, even though its "powdercoated"
if i put my stock air box back in and go for an "hour drive" in 75* weather even the stock box would be cool to the touch. black absorb'* heat- light color reflect'* heat.
on my first drag engine'*(back in '72) we painted the piston tops with high temp white paint to help keep the heat in the cylinder. we also gas ported the piston tops to help get a better piston ring to cylinder seal. but that was back in the day when i wanted to go fast (E GAS)with no engine or transmission 2 men can pick up the car. i miss those days. if i did not have my kids i would still be racing that car.

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Black releases heat as quickly as it absorbs it.
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Different materials on different cars with different drivers will have different results. The Intense FWI is great but it is not the only thing that works. if you have the time and money, experiment and maybe come up with your own design. just remember, keep the air cold, less bends the better, shortest distance is best to avoid heatsoak. Many people think my intake must not be effective but last time I went to Autozone and they scanned it, I was 2 degrees above outside air temp while at idle for 10 minutes.
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