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Old 05-25-2007, 09:36 PM   #21
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No real problems on an H-body for fitment. Header wrap makes it a much harder install. These are a much harder install than any of the other headers with holes really close to the primaries it makes it had to get a wrench on them. The slip fit part of the header is what is the pain in the butt. ZZP expanded one section for the crossover into the Y-pipe but it is too expanded and doesn't go in easily making it a difficult install. Hey, but it doesn't leak once you get it in!! I think in general it is a Pacesetter thing for all the problems that I encountered and not a body style thing. Like I said, the bigger primaries move the bolt holes closer to the wall and it is darn near impossible to get a socket on them so most of the work was getting an open end wrench on them an 1/8 of a turn at a time. After the bolts went in it was a fairly easy finish. The down pipe has a stupid design as far as hole placement is concerned too. It was fairly easy to get into the car and routed around everything as far as fitment is concerned. Actually much easier than a GP because of all the room in the front and behind the engine without having to rock the engine forward like in a GP. Here'* some pics.

please do yourself a favor and remove the header wrap , unless you want to buy a new set of headers , the wrap voids the warranty

get the headers coated at jet hot , hpc , or a local coaters


booby you let these call your bonnie a girle car , shame on you
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I already warned him about the header wrap. Hoping he already dealt with it.

97 GTP, you should check out http://www.azclubgp.com/ A few of those members are members here. Good local club for you.
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im already a member there

guess i should introduce myself , boobie knows me already

i am the eric he is refering to that works at pacesetter , and yes we do have plans to fit the headers to the bonnies bob'* being the first
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Hmmm, nice to meet you Eric
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thank you

1 other thing i should mention , i recomend using wider band clamps and not the 1'* supplied
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1 other thing i should mention , i recomend using wider band clamps and not the 1'* supplied
Wait a minute......your profile lists you as Customer Service, and you claim to work for Pacesetter, and you're telling us not to use the parts supplied?

WTF is going on here?
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i am one of the customer service reps , also take care of the warranty returns

the clamps provided are only like 1/2" , and my personal opinion is they are to skinny and suck , ive never had luck with narrow clamps ,i hate U-clamps also

ever since ive used the wider band clamps ive been sold on them , like the pic below , usually cost about 10.00 each




its all my personal opinion and preference , and alot of people ive talked with usually understand , and are ok with know there is a better option , before they dig into the job and have a possible issue down the road

the current headers use 2 1/2" collector and cross over tube
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I already warned him about the header wrap. Hoping he already dealt with it.
Against my will and reluctantly, but I took it off. Better safe than sorry. Usually my stubborness gets me into trouble so I thought I would listen this time I guess.
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Glad you did. You didn't happen to shoot any pics inside the crossever and collectors before you installed them, did you?

There'* a few issues with the set harofreak00 bought. We're still waiting to see what comes out of PS'* customer service.
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No, I didn't take any photos but I didn't have the same issues as Haro'* did. Mine looked clean all the way through.
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