hey im looking at buys some pacesetters headers and jsut woundering what your input is on them quality performence every thign and any thing thanks

Mine will arrive on wednesday.

Overall, from what I've read on here, clubgp, and regalgs.org is that you MUST weld them after you get them installed at the y-pipe. You also need longer bolts, however I'm not entirely sure the specs on the bolts.

If you get the non-ceramic coated you will need to buy some coating for them, not just the spray can stuff either, get the real deal.

downpipe will also tick a little, some say to wrap it with header wrap just like the SLPs.

You also may need to smooth out some of the welds on the inside of the primaries as they often come sloppy.

Performance wise, look at Jshelton'* car that ran a 13.4 at 102MPH with the pacesetter headers, 1.9 rockers, tuned PCM, and a 3.2 pulley......

IIRC your gen W-body has issues with fitting headers.
DPP made headers that would work but some people 'modify' their firewall to make them work.

I have ceramic coated ZZP version Pacesetters with the original clamps, no welds, and no leaks.

They are overall good headers for the price.

Oldsman has them as well. I helped put them on. There'* no need to worry about interior welds from what I've seen unless you plan on entering them into an interior welding competition. The welds are there and holding.

Yesterday I told another member that the price is right on them.

Z34, please put your car info in your signature. Make sure you buy the right SET, made for your car.

My personal opinion is that they are very cheap and not only in the money sense. Will they work? Probably, Will you have to do some work to get them to fit right and seal properly? Definately. Will you have to buy some other parts to make them better? (02 extension, metal gaskets, etc..) I certainly would.

We have seen a few sets come in to be put on customer cars and after seeing them and the hassle they are I wouldn't let them anywhere near my car.

They have also not been around long enough to see how they "wear".

But again thats just my opinion