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Old 05-03-2005, 12:00 PM   #21
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I thought the Vin L was considered the HO engine after the 3?
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I thought the Vin L was considered the HO engine after the 3?
The Vin 3 3.8 in the 87-88 Bonnie was a HO Engine

The Vin C 88-91 was well a 3800 ( No HO designation ) Darn...

The Vin L 90-95 in diffrent models was an HO 3800 ( Jason I'm sure you of all people know the diffrences ... LOL ) I have driven a few 3800 TPI cars and they are happier to rev quicker and get going....

The Vin K is the 3800 II HO.... Internally things were lightened up to allow the engine to rev higher and quicker... Leaves more to propell the car... I guess thats where some of those 30 horses cam from... Sad part tho is that the torque only improved 5 ft lbs...

All great engines... But the Vin 3 lived without a balance shaft... Had some jiggle at and slightly above idle...

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The Vin L 90-95 in diffrent models was an HO 3800 ( Jason I'm sure you of all people know the diffrences ... LOL ) I have driven a few 3800 TPI cars and they are happier to rev quicker and get going....

The Vin K is the 3800 II HO.... Internally things were lightened up to allow the engine to rev higher and quicker... Leaves more to propell the car... I guess thats where some of those 30 horses cam from... Sad part tho is that the torque only improved 5 ft lbs...

All great engines... But the Vin 3 lived without a balance shaft... Had some jiggle at and slightly above idle...
After PCV, syn oil, etc, my engine sure likes to go up quick.... I think the vin K got more HP becaues the powerband shifted up some (good thing) and a lil extra torque didn't hurt. I think the goal was to get over 200 HP with it.

But no balance shaft in a 90* v6? ewwww
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Yes i sure do live without the balance shaft, but the only time i can feel it is at ~ 1250 RPM. My idle is perfectly smooth and anything above is GREAT. Plus... i have the HO. Lol Of course i'm still only living with 150 horsepower and i think 200 or so torque <---- that'* what i love best.
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Torque is nice when you floor it and your engine doesnt sound like its gonna blow, like little 4 bangers it could use a little... ok, a LOT more on the top end. Would a LN3 benefit from rockers or springs as a later gen would?
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The Vin L 90-95 in diffrent models was an HO 3800 ( Jason I'm sure you of all people know the diffrences ... LOL ) I have driven a few 3800 TPI cars and they are happier to rev quicker and get going....

The Vin K is the 3800 II HO.... Internally things were lightened up to allow the engine to rev higher and quicker... Leaves more to propell the car... I guess thats where some of those 30 horses cam from... Sad part tho is that the torque only improved 5 ft lbs...

All great engines... But the Vin 3 lived without a balance shaft... Had some jiggle at and slightly above idle...
After PCV, syn oil, etc, my engine sure likes to go up quick.... I think the vin K got more HP becaues the powerband shifted up some (good thing) and a lil extra torque didn't hurt. I think the goal was to get over 200 HP with it.

But no balance shaft in a 90* v6? ewwww
Yeah both of my cars seem to love Synthetic... After replacing the PCV valve on my 95 the Oil consumption seems like it has gone way down<--- I'm supprised... Usually I'm adding oil by now... Its still full...lol

Yeah the L36 did move the powerband up... Its strange to drive a series 1 then drive a series II.... There is a diffrence... I will swear up and down that my series II has a bit more stall in the converter to help it get going... But then again the 2 engines are sooo diffrent... I like all the 3800'*...lol

Yeah the old buick 3.0 and 3.8 V6'* lived with no balance shaft.... They do idle great and have a nice lope to them... And they sure do have that 1200-1300 or so jiggle... These were great engines as well... Maybe a tad underrated..?

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