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tmonsen5 05-01-2005 01:03 PM

87-91 compared to 92-98 0-60 times
 
have any of you owned woth a 87-91 bonneville and a 92-98 or have known the speed difference in the two. Im 17 and have a 89 SSE with only 165HP The ssei's have 240HP How much of a difference is there? Since my dads A8L hsa 340HP and is 6.5 seconds, im guessing that my 89 bonneville is in the 9-10 seconds range?

J Wikoff 05-01-2005 01:13 PM

I think you are about right. The A8L is a lot heavier than your 89. The 92-93 SSEi has 205, and 94-95 has 225, then 96+ got 240, just so you know. And times range from maybe high 6 to low 8.

fantastic88 05-01-2005 01:22 PM

It depends on a lot. Gearing is a big one. A 92-94 Series 1 with 170 hp will go 0-60 in 8.5-10 seconds. 10 s. with the 2.84 gearing and 8.5 with the 3.06 gearing. The only Bonneville that could keep up with you're dad's A8 is the 96'-99' SSEi. They do 0-60 in about 6.7 sec stock.

banned3800 05-01-2005 01:44 PM

I'd say a 90 or 91 with 3.33 gearing would do 9.0-9.5... The only thing I never cared for was that for an engine that redlines at 5200 Rpms( LN3 3800 C ) leaving that 3.33 gearing causing the 3800 to run to its top end too quick... Ran out of breath up there too... I actually perferred the 2.97 ratio in the older bonnies... My 91 with the 2.84 is slow...LOL

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tmonsen5 05-01-2005 01:49 PM

wow i didnt know that the HP of older SSEi's were 205 and 225. Having a 96 240Horse SSEi must really be fast. I guess that the old 87-91's were just for smooth cruising with cool gadgets in the car. One thing for sure is that the interior of a bonneville is better most all my friends cars such as a 95 camry - which is mostly all plastic and crappy interior, 96 buick century- what a piece, my friend wont even upgrade his factory AM FM stereo, not even a tape player is in that thing!

willwren 05-01-2005 01:50 PM

You're leaving out a prime factor. The biggest part of the 0-60 is getting off the line. You're overlooking the torque numbers in your comparisons.

banned3800 05-01-2005 01:53 PM


Originally Posted by tmonsen5
wow i didnt know that the HP of older SSEi's were 205 and 225. Having a 96 240Horse SSEi must really be fast. I guess that the old 87-91's were just for smooth cruising with cool gadgets in the car. One thing for sure is that the interior of a bonneville is better most all my friends cars such as a 95 camry - which is mostly all plastic and crappy interior, 96 buick century- what a piece, my friend wont even upgrade his factory AM FM stereo, not even a tape player is in that thing!

The 87-91 Bonnies were cruisers.... The 3800 C engine was a torquey motor tho.... Its neat to be climbing a causeway in OD at 47-48 mph with the 2.84 gearing running 1400 Rpms and not loosing any speed.... My friends 94 Altima just couldn't do it...lol

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banned3800 05-01-2005 01:57 PM


Originally Posted by willwren
You're leaving out a prime factor. The biggest part of the 0-60 is getting off the line. You're overlooking the torque numbers in your comparisons.

The 3800C should be rated at 220 Ft Lbs... I have seen 210 on may occasions... The L 3800 was only a 5 Hp and 5 Ft Lb improvement over the C engine, but the L 3800 could inhale and exahust better...( no fair )

I will say that 220Ft Lbs on tap as soon as you tap the gas was fun with a 3.33 ratio...

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Merlin 91/97 05-01-2005 06:14 PM


Originally Posted by jr's3800
I will say that 220Ft Lbs on tap as soon as you tap the gas was fun with a 3.33 ratio...

Yes.... yes it is.... :D

alec_b 05-01-2005 09:30 PM

My 87's got the 2.73 and feels pretty quick to me. Of course i havn't compared it to anything but it can still run pretty good times.


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