For what a MP112 and intercooler are going to cost you - you might as well go turbo. TURBO > MP112

sooo true....GP'* are hitting 9'*

well i wasn't looking for a turbo because i hate the idea of turbo lag, and with a sc the power is there when i need it... and im lighter than a gran prix so ill be pulling faster times anyways with the bigger sc...

A 97 or so L67 is you're animal.

I think that the */c would negate most turbo lag.

*/c=low end torque
turbo=top end go

Hey sunbird, there'* a reason that most Fieros don't swap a S2 into their cars. And I saw a Grand Am with a swap, and I'm amazed he got around the problem.

The nosedrive and belt path on the S2 is much farther off-axis than the S1, and in fact, that SC drive belt has to travel around an engine mount in the larger cars to get it to work. That'* going to be quite a trick in a Sunbird engine compartment.

It'* possible, but you won't have anything you can work on in the future. A S1 swap will be much more practical, especially in a dinky car like you have. MUCH more practical.

And if you consider an intercooled setup, you can ditch the hood.

im not the first to do a swap like this...there is a 1990 z24 with the 3.8sc... and if need be i can always get the fiberglass hood and front end that is 1 inch lionger.

Ok, just remember that ANYthing is possible. But is it in your realm? I've seen fabricators do stuff that nobody else would attempt.

There'* VERY little difference in performance between the 94/95 Series 1 and the Series 2 in performance, in fact, they are pretty much neck and neck.

On this Forum, you've got to be more specific than this. You need to specify which Series from now on, or you're going to get some pretty bogus replies when people don't understand.

http://www.v6z24.com/registry/blownz/

this is all i know about his car

but you're all very right... half the problems i won't know till i get there but i will look heavily into placement and what would need to be fabricated in orfer to get everything where it needs to go... im not too worried b/c i have alot of experience with cnc lathe'* milling nachines and drill presses... go tech. school

At the very least, you may have to do some inner fender liner removal, but a better option may be to find a shorter nosedrive for the SC. And relocate the AC compressor to match. This will bring that drive belt path farther inboard, possibly saving you some engine bay space headaches.