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Old 11-15-2005, 11:12 AM
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And for the record, that is a Series 1 engine in that Z24.
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There'* VERY little difference in performance between the 94/95 Series 1 and the Series 2 in performance, in fact, they are pretty much neck and neck.
I don't think there is anywhere near enough information out there to justify this statement.
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thanks alot you guys... you've given me alot of good info... when i start the build up ill let you know how everything is moving along...
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Originally Posted by 95naSTA
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There'* VERY little difference in performance between the 94/95 Series 1 and the Series 2 in performance, in fact, they are pretty much neck and neck.
I don't think there is anywhere near enough information out there to justify this statement.
Quite the contrary. Every 94/95 L67 that'* run has run even or slightly quicker than stock Series 2 cars. Mine and Martin McCoy'* are 2 of them. Even Harofreak'* 95 is quicker than his 2000. And that was AFTER de-modding the 95.

Sunbird, did you catch the note a couple of replies ago that the Z24 you linked to has a Series 1, not a Series 2?
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anyone else catch the weird belt wrap around the alt and the SC??

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Originally Posted by willwren
Quite the contrary. Every 94/95 L67 that'* run has run even or slightly quicker than stock Series 2 cars. Mine and Martin McCoy'* are 2 of them. Even Harofreak'* 95 is quicker than his 2000. And that was AFTER de-modding the 95.
Are you talking about the 94/95 SSEI vs. 96+ SSEI or are you talking about the 94/95 L67 vs. the 96+ L67. Those are two very different comparisons.
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Not getting involved in any arguements.

I will however say, owning both a 95 SSEi and 97 SSEi, there are slight differences body wise and interior. L67 wise..hands down there is definate differences and to say there are not would be a injustice to the Series 2.
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Originally Posted by 95naSTA
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Quite the contrary. Every 94/95 L67 that'* run has run even or slightly quicker than stock Series 2 cars. Mine and Martin McCoy'* are 2 of them. Even Harofreak'* 95 is quicker than his 2000. And that was AFTER de-modding the 95.
Are you talking about the 94/95 SSEI vs. 96+ SSEI or are you talking about the 94/95 L67 vs. the 96+ L67. Those are two very different comparisons.
I'm talking about both. Besides, there'* less than a 200lb difference between my SLE and an SSEi. Maybe even only 100lbs.
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Originally Posted by willwren
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Quite the contrary. Every 94/95 L67 that'* run has run even or slightly quicker than stock Series 2 cars. Mine and Martin McCoy'* are 2 of them. Even Harofreak'* 95 is quicker than his 2000. And that was AFTER de-modding the 95.
Are you talking about the 94/95 SSEI vs. 96+ SSEI or are you talking about the 94/95 L67 vs. the 96+ L67. Those are two very different comparisons.
I'm talking about both. Besides, there'* less than a 200lb difference between my SLE and an SSEi. Maybe even only 100lbs.
What about the weight difference of the 96+ and even more the 00+? and there is no way the 94/96 is up to par with the 96+ L67 performance wise.
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Originally Posted by 95naSTA
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Quite the contrary. Every 94/95 L67 that'* run has run even or slightly quicker than stock Series 2 cars. Mine and Martin McCoy'* are 2 of them. Even Harofreak'* 95 is quicker than his 2000. And that was AFTER de-modding the 95.
Are you talking about the 94/95 SSEI vs. 96+ SSEI or are you talking about the 94/95 L67 vs. the 96+ L67. Those are two very different comparisons.
I'm talking about both. Besides, there'* less than a 200lb difference between my SLE and an SSEi. Maybe even only 100lbs.
What about the weight difference of the 96+ and even more the 00+? and there is no way the 94/96 is up to par with the 96+ L67 performance wise.
Wanna bet? The best all-time purely stock 1/4 mile time for a Series 2 L67 (in a Bonneville) is 14.8 seconds. Most run 14.8 to 15.2 purely stock based on track conditions. Nearly every 95 in decent condition that'* run has also run in this range. Including HORRIBLE conditions for my own, at 15.1, which also beat a 97 SSEi the same day.

And before you say it'* the driver, I drove the 97 myself to it'* PB. The point I'm trying to make without ruffling feathers is that the 92-95 L67'* were intentionally underrated by GM.


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