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Old 07-02-2010, 12:10 AM   #41
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okay well im going to go ahead and pull the engine. its also geting a new timeing chain and oil pump. i have a serires II & III supercharged laying in the garage floor, ill pull the cam out of them and if they look bad ill buy one from you. also will series III supercharged cam, lifters, pushrods, and rockers work on a L36 ? they look exactly the same size and everything.

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check gm parts web site for compatibility. alot, if not all parts are not compatible from 1999-2000.
Also if using used parts I would reccomend using the complete valve train from only the same engine(being sure to keep all parts in same place). cam,lifters,rods and rockers. These parts have all been worn together I think it would just be more reliable to keep them together.
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Document ID# 360685
1999 Pontiac Bonneville

Valve Rocker Arm and Push Rod Replacement

<A href="http://127.0.0.1:9001/servlets/BlobShtml?ShtmlFile=360685&evc=sm&pubid=105&cellId =41895&mspsdsubkey=816#ss1-360685">Removal Procedure

Tools Required
J 36660-A Torque Angle Meter
  1. <LI type=1>Remove the left valve rocker arm cover. Refer to Valve Rocker Arm Cover Replacement . <LI type=1>Remove the right valve rocker arm cover. Refer to Valve Rocker Arm Cover Replacement .


    <LI type=1>Remove the valve rocker arm pedestal and retaining bolts.
    Important

    Place the assemblies on a clean surface. Store the component in order so they can be reassembled in the same location and with the same mating surfaces as when removed.

    <LI type=1>Remove the pedestal and valve rocker arm assembly.
  2. In order to complete installation, observe the following assembly tips:
    • Clean the valve rocker arms and pedestal bolts in a suitable solution and inspect for wear.
    • Clean the valve rocker arm pedestal bolts of all thread adhesive.
    • Apply thread lock compound or equivalent to the bolt threads before assembly.
<A href="http://127.0.0.1:9001/servlets/BlobShtml?ShtmlFile=360685&evc=sm&pubid=105&cellId =41895&mspsdsubkey=816#ss2-360685">Installation Procedure


  1. <LI type=1>Install the pedestal and valve rocker arm assembly.
    Notice

    This bolt is designed to permanently stretch when tightened. The correct part number fastener must be used to replace this type of fastener. Do not use a bolt that is stronger in this application. If the correct bolt is not used, the parts will not be tightened correctly. The system or the components may be damaged.


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    Use the correct fastener in the correct location. Replacement fasteners must be the correct part number for that application. Fasteners requiring replacement or fasteners requiring the use of thread locking compound or sealant are identified in the service procedure. Do not use paints, lubricants, or corrosion inhibitors on fasteners or fastener joint surfaces unless specified. These coatings affect fastener torque and joint clamping force and may damage the fastener. Use the correct tightening sequence and specifications when installing fasteners in order to avoid damage to parts and systems.

    <LI type=1>Install the valve rocker arm pedestal retaining bolts. Tighten Tighten the valve rocker arm pedestal retaining bolts to 15 Nm (11 lb ft). Use the J 36660-A in order to rotate the bolts an additional 90 degrees.
    <LI type=1>Install the right side valve rocker arm cover. Refer to Valve Rocker Arm Cover Replacement . <LI type=1>Install the left side valve rocker arm cover. Refer to Valve Rocker Arm Cover Replacement . Tighten Tighten the bolts to 10 Nm (89 lb in).
    <LI type=1>Inspect for proper completion of the repairs.
  2. Listen for valve train noise.
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okay thanks
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Sounds like you are well on your way.

Technically almost every bolt on our motors are TTY. However I reuse the cam and crank bolts all the time w/o any issues. Looking at how they hold and the forces applied to them, it'* not 100% necessary like a rocker or bottom end bolt. Doesn't save you much, but it'* a couple bucks.

Dan..when you say tensioner, you mean on the timing chain right?
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Yes, timing chain tensioner.
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ive already bought new rocker arm bolts. is the ZZP oil volume kit worth the money ?

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Yes and no. Basically the oil pressure kits are a gasket and a washer. I found Dorman washers at Autozone in a 10 pack for dirt cheap. I want to think the part number was something like 760-010. Here'* the dimensions of the washer you'd need.

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You place the washer between the spring and the plunger. Put on the new gasket and presto. higher pressure.
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okay thanks ill do that
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i dont really want to pull the engine, so how hard is it to replave the cam with the engine in the car ? is there a write up ?

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