after i listen to the car more i belive its in the back. heres a pic from when i did the lim gasket a few weeks ago, the noise was there before i changed gasketes just faint and has been graduallt getting worse

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#4 seems to have a lot of goo on that port. I would look that one over. If that valve is not opening right ya, it will cause a misfire.

i took the car to several mechanics today including the dealership, none of them have heard the nosie before, here are some of there ideas, some are kinda out there...1. balence shaft 2. timeing chain 3. cam walking. anyof these sound resonable ? i do remeber when i changed the lim gasket the balence shaft did have some play in it. any ideas ? working on takeing off vavle covers now.

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You would need to remove the timing chain cover to inspect the timing chain. I've no heard of a cam walking. Lets see what you find under the valve covers. Look for any loose rockers.

i have taken off both vavle covers and insrcted very closly, nothing is losse or out of place. we started the car for a second to inspect everything while it runnin and didnt see anything wrong there either. but my dad said he thinks the sounds is coming from the middle. so what to do next ?

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also he said cam walking was where is movein back and forth but i dont really belive that guy too much lol

The cam is not going to move back and forth.

yeah i didnt think so lol what should i do next ? pull the push rods and check them ?

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If it'* coming from the center then you need to check the balance shaft and cam. You will need to pull the LIM to do that.

yay get to buy another set of lim gaskets lol okay will do and how to check the cam ?

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