D A M N , Pat. Tell us how you REALLY feel!

I'm pretty happy with my 15.09 for now. Considering the badly slipping tranny, EM cracks, dead AFC, heavy-*** 17" wheels, 1/2 tank of 95, leaky ELC, full street trim.

I bet with my new tranny and shift kit (done), fixed ELC (done), new AFC (done), PEMs (not yet), and drag radials on my stock "aero-lite" wheels, I could pull off a 14.6 to 14.8 in otherwise street trim, now that I got my fueling mostly figured out. I'll take some ice bags to the track next time.

I like to keep it mostly in daily driven condition, so I have a decent idea of what it can do on the street.

You and the vast majority of members on this Forum.

Let'* see.....most of the members (99.9%) that have run at the track do mild track prep, so I'm going to go out and GUT my interior, including the grab handles (oh-**** handles), weld strut uplocks onto my rear supspension, paint glue all over my tires, rip out all the seats, empty my fluids, and all this other stuff and BEAT THEM all!

Blazin, this isn't meant as a ripping slam. It'* an attempt to give you an idea of why you can't seem to get any reasonable credit for your claims. Even if you produce timeslips, you'd get more credit for running a purple bottle in your car than for what you did.

I think this was all that really needed to be said:
This:
Was a little too much IMO.

If I had done the track prep Blazin claims (not publicly in this topic yet) to have done to achieve the time he claims, I'd have been in the 13'* at WCBF06. I doubt any attendee would dispute that claim by me.

My car in STREET trim has SCARED some members on the West Coast. sse1990, Slayer636, and EK98 come to mind. Maybe more.

Let'* all make a vow at some point in our adult lives that we won't try sneaky little tricks to turn our STREET LICENSED and STREET DRIVEN vehicles into weird freaks of nature for the sole purpose of besting someone that actually ran their car with some credibility.

Most of us take PRIDE in helping others go quicker. I spent alot of time out West this year prepping and coaching people I was in direct competition with. Ya know what? I ran in LESS track trim than some of them, despite the competition.

No cutting, gutting, or welding here. Just real power that relates to what the car will do on the street.

Now do we all see the problems with managing track times? It'* not necessarily just the verification. There'* always SOMEONE that pushes the limits of reality just for the sole purpose of a competitive edge, rather than being up front and decent about it all. It pushes us into more rules, more guidelines, and more flames.

Do we re-write the rules? Should we take the task away from Rogue so he doesn't have to deal with all the ****, and write a 456 page NASCAR rulebook, form a committee to review all claims?

Or just be HONEST and adult about it all? I'd personally be embarassed at making a 12-second claim in the Zilla had I been forced to admit what I did to the car to get it there.

If thats how you want to run your car, go for it.
But, theres plenty of people who pull the exhaust, seats, etc. at the track. I never really saw any problem with it.
If I ran my old car the exhuast would have came off cause its been said to gain .2 by wes and a few other people and it takes 10 mins. I would have said that though with the #*.
Now being sneaky about it is another thing.

Interesting that he made his claims publicly, but never told anyone publicly how he supposedly achieved it, eh?

Sneaky? Yup.

I saw this same type of behavior twice before.

Once when I was in Kindergarten, and once when lilpooky was in Kindergarten and I was a volunteer room parent.

Since that time, each guilty party has acted a little more adult about things like this. One is now one of my best friends, and one is Kim'* best friend.

eeeexactly

There is absolutly no way a "stock" 1992 SSEi can run in low 15'* or mid 14'* stock, period.

If blazin is so true to his word he'd have a timeslip to prove it, but until he does the bullshit flag will stay raised and flying free on his unbelivable claim.

~I've been through so many other threads calling blazin'* bull **** I should enough frenquent flyer miles to get to the moon and back.

It'* tough to doubt your times..when I have the timeslip from running next to ya! You better add more power old man. I'm hoping to be there right next to my buddy again this coming year.

It'* probably the most fun ... running side by side most of the way down the track with a friend.

BTW..the best my car did was 14.5 on a warm night. What did I take out? uh..I forgot one headlight and tool bag in the pits. I had crap in the trunk, full interior plus all my coolest weight adding mods.