Return of Rear Wheel drive - Page 3 - GM Forum - Buick, Cadillac, Chev, Olds, GMC & Pontiac chat


Lounge For casual talk about things unrelated to General Motors. In other words, off-topic stuff. And anything else that does not fit Section Description.

Reply
 
 
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 02-15-2007, 09:37 AM   #21
Senior Member
Posts like a Turbo
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 450
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
ieatfeets is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sol
Another thing,

FWD cars can't handle worth a crap, unless you drive an Integra Type-R or something.

RWD with a nice suspension setup makes for a very fun car.
my riviera handles quite well
ieatfeets is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-15-2007, 09:44 AM   #22
Sol
Senior Member
True Car Nut
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Posts: 8,909
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Sol is on a distinguished road
Default

It'* all relative. I'd like to think my GP handles well with it'* suspension mods. When it was lowered, it handled great ... relatively speaking.

My bro'* GTO, completely stock, weighing a few hundred pounds more, would eat me alive in the corners.
Sol is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-15-2007, 10:09 AM   #23
Senior Member
Posts like a Turbo
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 450
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
ieatfeets is on a distinguished road
Default

with only alot more torque and alot more hp. and its a holden built product. most rwd cars cant do what the gto does in the corners
ieatfeets is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-15-2007, 10:10 AM   #24
Senior Member
True Car Nut
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 3,295
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
MyLittleBlackBird is on a distinguished road
Default

I think too much is being placed on the drivetrain orientation. Each setup simply has to be driven different in terms of cornering. I prefer RWD, but that'* just because I dream of some day lifting the front tires off the ground. Can't do that with FWD...
MyLittleBlackBird is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-15-2007, 10:38 AM   #25
Sol
Senior Member
True Car Nut
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Posts: 8,909
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Sol is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ieatfeets
with only alot more torque and alot more hp. and its a holden built product. most rwd cars cant do what the gto does in the corners
Then look at BMW'*. While we may be able to smoke a 325i in a straight line, it will beat us in the corners. A RWD setup has much a better balance. Our cars are too front heavy.
Sol is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-15-2007, 11:08 AM   #26
Senior Member
Posts like a Northstar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Posts: 606
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Chinski is on a distinguished road
Default

A BMW and a Bonneville aren't really in the same class though. BWM tends to have more full-sport suspension while the Bonneville is more towards comfort-sport. Comparing like that, I could say that FWD handles better because a Bonneville will out handle a F-150.

But I would agree that 2 vehicles with equal suspension tune, equal wheel base, weight distribution favored for FWD or RWD respectivly, the RWD may out do the FWD by a little bit just because of where the power is being put and the way you can make it work for you. The difference is not as drastic as Bonneville to BMW though, there are just too many other factors in there besides the dive wheels.
Chinski is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-15-2007, 11:12 AM   #27
Sol
Senior Member
True Car Nut
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Posts: 8,909
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Sol is on a distinguished road
Default

Then from a speculation standpoint, do you think that the G8 would do as well if it was FWD?
Sol is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-15-2007, 11:53 AM   #28
Senior Member
Posts like a Northstar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Posts: 606
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Chinski is on a distinguished road
Default

Here, I fixed the second half of my post for you
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chinski
But I would agree that if the G8 came as a designed FWD and also a designed RWD version, the RWD may out do the FWD by a little bit just because of where the power is being put and the way you can make it work for you. The difference is not as drastic as Bonneville to BMW though, there are just too many other factors in there besides the dive wheels.
Chinski is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-15-2007, 12:58 PM   #29
Senior Member
Certified Car Nut
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Posts: 15,928
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
BonneMeMN is on a distinguished road
Default

Chinkski, how many RWD cars (not trucks) have you driven? It'* a HUGE difference. RWD cars are inherently balanced more naturally then FWD, it'* not a little bit more around corners, it'* a lot more. RWD has better weight transfer for straight launches as well. The "harder" you push it, the more you pull ahead with RWD.

The industry went to FWD for a few reasons.

1) Effeciency ala MPG.
2) Make cars lighter due to less strengthening needed down the entire body
3) More cabin space/Easier packaging of components
4) Customer Perception

If your drive wheels lose grip in RWD it can spin you around (oversteer), in FWD, it'll make you plow ahead instead of turning (understeer). RWD seperates the steering grip from the acceleration grip. RWD was the ONLY way people got around until around the early 80'*, and not everyone died in the snow, 90% or more of the cops in america use RWD every day.

Traction control systems, and Electronic stability management will be part of the new G8 i'm sure. RWD is nothing to be afraid of at all.

And on the motor issue, yes holden'* blocks come from GM, but they're not Vortec truck heads, manifolds, or power curves.
BonneMeMN is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-15-2007, 01:10 PM   #30
Member
Posts like a V-Tak
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Cincinnati
Posts: 95
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
atauri_92 is on a distinguished road
Default

If GM wants to get thier sales back, they should listen to the consumers, they will save GM... I say a Pontiac RWD car is better, mid-engine would be the best, or even an AWD sub-compact, something to compete with the EVOs, and STis would be great too, but for now RWD is good
atauri_92 is offline   Reply With Quote
 
 
Reply

Related Topics
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
What does a fuel pressure regulator tell a fuel pump on a Chevy GMC rear wheel drive GunsOfNavarone GMC/Chevrolet Truck/SUV 9 06-01-2011 11:09 AM
3800 rear wheel drive 1999_pontiac_ssei Performance, Brainstorming & Tuning 11 02-24-2010 11:11 PM
Rear brake return spring snapped? SSEBONNE4EVA 1992-1999 5 09-05-2004 05:49 PM
rear wheel drive stick shift bonne! italianstallion84 General GM Chat 24 06-06-2004 12:38 AM
Front wheel drive VS Rear wheel drive vze3r85p General GM Chat 51 11-03-2002 09:58 PM


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 06:06 AM.


We are a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for us to earn fees by linking to Amazon.com and affiliated sites.